"If you build it he will come"..............probably not right at this moment.Don’t try and talk logically in here mate. We need to build a 65,000 seater stadium for the sake of it & the rest will fall into place
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roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Funny you say that, was my old life all that, and I heard a very big one have had chats with folk, y'know. Was a while back, granted, but they are not known for speed.
Onwards Evertonians
Player Valuation: £8m
We've beaten Liverpool's highest ever attendance about fifty times there,(everything on that link basically) including once as a second division team. And one of them was against Tranmere, and how they laugh at us.
I’m a trustee on our DB scheme in work
One of the few to guarantee 2/3 of your wages after 40 yrs.
I get to field a lot of questions about AVC ‘s and the standard advice is as I’m sure you know
With 3-5 yrs left your AVC’s should all be in cash funds.
Problem is rates of 1% or less and management fees of 1% or more.
So if the pension fund can get a guaranteed 3 or 4 % interest they are on a winner
I amortised a 600 m loan at 4% over 30 years and it’s about 26 m a year
Should be easy to recoup IMO
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £30m
You're so childish manipulating my ambitious approach and make out i'm not talking logically. Whatever. Each of my points you skirted around what I said and gave different answers each time. Fine you have a different view it's all about opinions.Don’t try and talk logically in here mate. We need to build a 65,000 seater stadium for the sake of it & the rest will fall into place
This new ground will be a once in a life time move; so we have to make the most of it and make sure it is right.
Don't underestimate what we're all about Everton Football Club is a big big club and for those that scoff well you're the reason why so many fans are happy to keep finish 6th or 7th and I want us to win the league. (I'm not saying we're in a position to far from it but that's the ambition). As someone said earlier plainly, NSNO.
Dogs_of_War
Player Valuation: £500k
It goes hand in hand, do you think Ravanelli, Juninho and Emerson would have moved to the north east if they were still playing at Ayresome Park? The bigger wages help but you need the vision too which players buy into. Of course Middlesbrough could never maintain that but we can.
We are trying to improve on the pitch, it's hit and miss now but that is always the case with teams that come into money suddenly, if we keep investing over the next 4 years we should have at least a team capable of getting a few shots on target per half.What we know is if we build it too small to start with it will never be extended, it costs way more to extend than it does to build it in the first place, City are running at 60 million for 6000 seats! I would rather we have a few thousand empty seats 10 matches a year than have all of them sold out in advance and a huge waiting list.
Don't discount that it would be a huge positive selling the vision to prospective players to say our stadium is bigger (or the same size at least) than Arsenal, City, Chelsea etc.
Sorry mate, it was a poor attempt of a joke, in retaliation to what others had said earlier. I agree with you regarding the overall project, a nice new stadium certainly helps sell the vision the clubs got and should hopefully help to attract better players (dependant on team performance). I don't think having a bigger stadium than Arsenal, Spurts etc. makes much differance though, it certainly hasn't helped the likes of Newcastle or Sunderland. And like I said earlier, I'd rather go for a stadium that suits what we need (55,000-60,000) & helps to harness what Goodison offers.
Dogs_of_War
Player Valuation: £500k
Kevin Costner's on route...
Would you consider a slightly larger capacity stadium
Say 61878
Asking for a friend
Dogs_of_War
Player Valuation: £500k
Mate, I responded to every point you made. It's not my fault if you didn't understand my response. Put you dummy back in.
I agree, this stadium needs to be right for the club and I'd rather we build something that suits us, helps keep an intimidating & atmospheric stadium, with hopefully some of Goodison's iconic features (Archibald Leitch design, four sides, stands close to the pitch), than trying to go as big as possible for the sake of it.
Don't tell me I'm the type of supporter that's happy with mediocrity either, just because my ideas differ to yours in terms of how we'll benefit from a new stadium. I've got those words you keep trying to use against me tattooed on my arm, I spend hundreds/thousands watching Everton every year, expecting us to win every game, compete with 'top' teams and win trophies.
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £30m
Childish behaviour reverting to insults.
Dogs_of_War
Player Valuation: £500k
What happens if we have to take a few seats out for disabled fans, and end up with a random capacity like 61207?
All right Bill
How’s things
Dan will have allowed for disabled seating in the plans
61000 sears and 878 wheelchair places
It’s wtitten in the stars
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Slightly off topic, but I made more than a few bob picking up DB AVC schemes when Equitable Life went wonky.
And as such, crystallised a pretty sum in my own DB scheme which is now in my own DC hands. The offer was ridiculously high. Hence why I jacked it all in and deliver parcels for basically pin money.
Well for some
I’ll have 38 yrs years in and roughly 2 years salary in AVC’s
I’ll take the max one and a half times tax free and put the rest into an ARF
Hoping for a redundancy package of 3x yearly earnings as well so if it all falls into place I’ll be set up.
The amount of lads that don’t bother with pensions and AVC till their 30/40 s is staggering