New Everton Stadium

[TheFinnFan]

So could we actually build new C-boxes into Goodison?

 

[BoysInBlue]

So could we actually build new C-boxes into Goodison?

No chance mate, there's no room. It's pie in the sky talk.

 

[The Esk]

The title of this thread is painful to try and read

Sorry mate, can't edit it.

Edited for you

 

[BoysInBlue]

Edited for you

Thanks mate lol.

 

[Ruairi77]

The thing is though, a brand new stadium with a large capacity would attract big business and corporate sponsors.

With Liverpool, City and United all within spitting distance, it might not generate enough to cover it's self.
I still think a renovated Goodison is the way forward. I like what this fella has to say.

 

[TheFinnFan]

No chance mate, there's no room. It's pie in the sky talk.

Thats what i thought too...wonder why they are even discussing about the possibility...

 

[BoysInBlue]

With Liverpool, City and United all within spitting distance, it might not generate enough to cover it's self.
I still think a renovated Goodison is the way forward. I like what this fella has to say.

The major problem with a renovated Goodison is the cost and the fact that the footprint around the ground would need to be made much bigger.

Look at Liverpool - they spent 10-15 years buying up all the properties around Anfield and managing them into a decline, to the point they had to be knocked down anyway.

By and large, the streets around Goodison are nearly all fully occupied. There's a church and a primary school that would need relocating - can you imagine the protest groups regarding both???!!!!

The stadium is landlocked and cannot be improved, and the funding isn't there to do it either.

A brand new stadium with large plot of land and the ability to plan a purpose built arena for the 21st century needs is what is needed at this point.

Anything else is a sticking plaster on a bullet wound.

 

[davek]

Ends on a 'positive note', according to O'Keeffe:

"I've been brought up to be a victim, I think it pervades our thinking. I've always gone to derbies with a chip on my shoulder. "Psychologists will say that's all consitioning. Learned behavipours. It was drummed into me."The challenge foe Everton moving forward is trying to change that mentality and have a generation that aren't vicitms. That are realistic. That can say we can compete two or three places above the wage bill and can do it. And that becomes fun again.."

I dont find that particularly inspiring, tbh. But I suppose it goes with the 'let's shove a few corporate boxes into one of the existing stands and boost revenue by a few quid' plan he advocates.

A chillingly uninventive and conservative seminar, in my opinion.

 

[atrottel]

What I would have liked to have heard (and what didn't seem to be mentioned in the coverage) is the influence of the UEFA FairPlay deal in terms of wages and capital expenditure. As far as I understand it from reading about it, you can't increase wages too far without an increase in turnover, otherwise you get a hefty fine.

So, in other words, for us to compete on the pitch in future (in terms of wages and quality of players) we have to increase our revenue base somehow. One immediate thing that I assume would help us there is bringing the kit sales and catering back in-house (not because it is profitable but because it increases our turnover). But that is just a short-term solution.

What he was saying from a business pov didn't seem that different from the analysis at various times from the SwissRamble blog.

 

[Ruairi77]

The major problem with a renovated Goodison is the cost and the fact that the footprint around the ground would need to be made much bigger.

Look at Liverpool - they spent 10-15 years buying up all the properties around Anfield and managing them into a decline, to the point they had to be knocked down anyway.

By and large, the streets around Goodison are nearly all fully occupied. There's a church and a primary school that would need relocating - can you imagine the protest groups regarding both???!!!!

The stadium is landlocked and cannot be improved, and the funding isn't there to do it either.

A brand new stadium with large plot of land and the ability to plan a purpose built arena for the 21st century needs is what is needed at this point.

Anything else is a sticking plaster on a bullet wound.

I agree to a certain extent, I just think we could get ourselves in to all sorts of trouble trying to finance a new stadium without mega investment. I think rebuilding the main stand and park end on their current footprint is doable. The other two stands are beautiful old stands that only add to the Everton brand.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Ends on a 'positive note', according to O'Keeffe:

I dont find that particularly inspiring, tbh. But I suppose it goes with the 'let's shove a few corporate boxes into one of the existing stands and boost revenue by a few quid' plan he advocates.

A chillingly uninventive and conservative seminar, in my opinion.

For once I'm in total agreement with you.

To sum it all up:

There's no investment into the club from the board.
The business isn't growing.
Kenwright is a bad businessman.
We're not seen as sexy to corporate businesses.
We need more corporate boxes to grow (even though he said corporate businesses don't like us).
Even though we need more corporate boxes, which cannot be fitted into Goodison (it ain't the Tardis mate), he bizarrely doesn't think we need a new stadium.
If someone invests into the club, they are 'taking a chance'.
Basically we've been crap and small time since the 1990s, this will never change.


It's a massively pessimistic view of the club. I remember his Toffeeweb articles from years back and they were always this pessimistic back then too. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a totally true reflection of reality or of 'what can be in the future'.

 

[blulouie]

The major problem with a renovated Goodison is the cost and the fact that the footprint around the ground would need to be made much bigger.

Look at Liverpool - they spent 10-15 years buying up all the properties around Anfield and managing them into a decline, to the point they had to be knocked down anyway.

By and large, the streets around Goodison are nearly all fully occupied. There's a church and a primary school that would need relocating - can you imagine the protest groups regarding both???!!!!

The stadium is landlocked and cannot be improved, and the funding isn't there to do it either.

A brand new stadium with large plot of land and the ability to plan a purpose built arena for the 21st century needs is what is needed at this point.

Anything else is a sticking plaster on a bullet wound.

Couldnt have put that any betterWell said mate.

 

[Connor]

Has to be a fan led thing here now, something everybody can look at and get behind.

Not SOS or the Bunion, they're bulls**t.

We're going to be left behind again. We're going to set ourselves back, again. It can't happen this time.

 

[riddick]

Ends on a 'positive note', according to O'Keeffe:

"I've been brought up to be a victim, I think it pervades our thinking. I've always gone to derbies with a chip on my shoulder. "Psychologists will say that's all consitioning. Learned behavipours. It was drummed into me."The challenge foe Everton moving forward is trying to change that mentality and have a generation that aren't vicitms. That are realistic. That can say we can compete two or three places above the wage bill and can do it. And that becomes fun again.."

I dont find that particularly inspiring, tbh. But I suppose it goes with the 'let's shove a few corporate boxes into one of the existing stands and boost revenue by a few quid' plan he advocates.

A chillingly uninventive and conservative seminar, in my opinion.

thats terrifying. So they are basically saying we have been punching above our weight and since we DONT need a new stadium to increase our turnover, again, punching above our weight is where we should be happy being?

 

[Azza]

So in summary we have no money, which means we can't build a new stadium, can't redevelop Goodison and can't buy players to get us into the CL ergo getting the commercial exposure to help fund a new stadium or redevelopment.


Didn't we know that already?



Nice guy Bill, Soft Elstone, Old man Woods and Where's Earl - the nonexistent backbone of a naff business.