Jeff Jones
Player Valuation: £35m
I won't be happy unless is does this and more
Horrible. imo.
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New Everton Stadium
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Horrible. imo.
Jeff Jones
Player Valuation: £35m
They're not really bothered about the Council funding it, they're just scared stiff that it will actually be built and Everton will play in it.
You do know that not everyone in Liverpool is a football fan ? I know it supports the "we never have anything nice" narrative that some strangely push but we are football anoraks, plenty of our council tax payers are not the least bit interested in football so of course are interested in what the council are doing with our money.
Imagine if the rs had gone to the council to fund Bigstand, it would have exploded in here.
We need a new stadium because the present one is not fit for the 21st century...it wasnt even fit for the last 10 -15 years of the last one.
The final capacity will be a function of available space Vs available money
Space is finite, so is funding
Then there is the quality aspect to it.
If you spunk almost all the dosh on getting as many seats on the fixed sized plot as you can...the finish will suffer...think inside of a multi story carpark.
You COULD put 61878-62k-63k plus on there...IF you could fill it...IF you could afford it...we can't, as yet, afford anything.
What I don't think you can do is sometime down the road...say after our 2nd Champions League win... stick on another 10/12k, but the money needed to over engineer the foundations for a just in case, means it won't happen.
(Which btw, is why they always have accountants in charge of these things not the builders or engineers)
This is a 1 off, never to be repeated thing...'Do it once, but do it right'
That doesn't mean over extending yourself trying to gild the seat capacity
I've said all along it will be mid to low 50's 54-55k and cost over 600M...I'm also picking Aug 24 for the grand opening
The final capacity will be a function of available space Vs available money
Space is finite, so is funding
Then there is the quality aspect to it.
If you spunk almost all the dosh on getting as many seats on the fixed sized plot as you can...the finish will suffer...think inside of a multi story carpark.
You COULD put 61878-62k-63k plus on there...IF you could fill it...IF you could afford it...we can't, as yet, afford anything.
What I don't think you can do is sometime down the road...say after our 2nd Champions League win... stick on another 10/12k, but the money needed to over engineer the foundations for a just in case, means it won't happen.
(Which btw, is why they always have accountants in charge of these things not the builders or engineers)
This is a 1 off, never to be repeated thing...'Do it once, but do it right'
That doesn't mean over extending yourself trying to gild the seat capacity
I've said all along it will be mid to low 50's 54-55k and cost over 600M...I'm also picking Aug 24 for the grand opening
Dublin blue 75
Player Valuation: £50m
Good summary in terms of the likely five years post build challenges assuming the on field activity is successful. Post world cup, most of the stadiums (Kazan would be nice) were in the 45-50,000 capacity. Just pointing out that bigger doesn't by default need to mean better.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Yeah but bigstand was only to benefit RSFC but the stadium on the docks is a massive benefit to the whole city and the Liverpool Water plans, so its different. Saying that I agree on the meltdown here if they had, but only because the council at the time were doing nothing to help us
Jeff Jones
Player Valuation: £35m
Yes, I agree but I'm talking about ongoing whinging from football fans who support Liverpool. They're quite public in
expressing their opinions on the subject.
Oh of course they are would you seriously expect anything else ? The point I am making is the loan will affect everyone in Liverpool blue or red. I used to have a Saturday job years ago and was amazed at the scousers shopping when the match was on as all my mates growing up were footy mad. Its only as I get older I realised that there are a large number of people who don't care one bit about football, weirdos.
That will be the big issue, the rest of the funding. The terms of the council deal was if anything was to happen to Everton unable to pay the loan they would take control of the stadium.
Which major bank is going to provide the loan for the shortfall with no security against it.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
They put 10's of millions into the infrastructure around Anfield, dont think there was a peep on here tbh.
toffee-boy
Player Valuation: £15m
Be interesting to what the benefits of having a lesser capacity is? Would the footprint of the stadium be the same size? Meaning there's more room for entertainment facilities, corporate box's? Bars and meeting points? Which could mean more revenue from that than 8k more seats?
No idea just throwing it out there
No idea just throwing it out there
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
RobSpurs
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Looking at the plans, as far as I can see the constraints come at the north and south of the site, not the east and west. Given that the corporate boxes, bars etc will mostly be in the east/west stands I don't think restraining capacity to make room for them makes sense. And you've already got an enormous (properly huge) fan park designated to the East of the ground, so it's not like they're short of space for that kind of thing either.
I genuinely think it's just a very tight site in one direction - that's why the proposed north stand is dinky in comparison to the other three stands, they literally can't build any further back. If there was room for more seats, that's where they'd go, but there isn't so they're filling that gap between the roof and the top of the north stand with Europe's biggest video screen instead.
