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New Everton Stadium

Lol at fans still arguing over the Esk credibility. I used to remember reading his posts on here and found them interesting. Not seen any of his work since he left as I only used this place for my everton Fix.
 
Only just seen the designs. Broadly it looks good. But if atmosphere is one of key objectives then there's too many breaks in the seating. I can count a dozen large gangways and Exits in the lower half of the home end alone. There appear to be six exits only 3 or 4 rows from the front. Hardly going to generate intensity or intimidation. There should be solid blocks of seating in the sections near to the pitch, as at Gwladys St.
Probably a requirement nowadays. You easily fill them in at a later date. Let's get the provisional planning through and signed. Then have a tinker later
 
Okay, so this is a huge thing, lot of emotion, lot at stake, lot to think about. I needed a bit of time to let it all bed in to be honest.

I've now seen a lot on line and I've been to the road show.

When I first saw it, I wasn't blown away, I thought it looked good but not revolutionary or anything. But I wasn't expecting that, there's only so much you can do with a football ground, on a river, on a rainy bit on the edge of Britain. But, I think not being stunned by it is actually a good thing on reflection.

The more I've looked at it, the more it's really grown on me, like great art. The brick and glass combination is a little odd at first, but as I got used to it I thought, yeah in the location that makes sense, its a new home, modern, but with a real nod to the past and fits in with the docklands well. There's echoes of Goodison, and that's about right, we don't want to recreate it, it has to be new. The inside I think captures some of the piecemeal nature of the old lady that I've always loved, with angular sections, its not just a circuit, its not a bowl, but maximises the space and is still 'blocky'.

I would really recommend seeing the People's Project road show, seeing the renders on a big high glossy print makes a massive difference, a lot of details start to emerge, this is definitely not some identikit ground. If you go, do the VR thing, it's great and gives you an idea of what its going to be like on match days.

I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.

However, this is only half the story and this is what's perhaps made me happiest. The final game at Goodison will be heartbreaking for me and most on here, and for blues all around the world, some of whom may never have actually been able to make it. Half of the road-show is about what we'll be leaving behind. This is obviously a longer term project, it can't start until we actually leave and the advisers at the event were honest enough to say a lot can happen over that time but the tone is hugely encouraging. There's talk of a mental health support hub, academic facilities, assisted living housing for the elderly. If this stays on track, there will be a legacy forever linking the club with the community its been part of for over a century, that will leave the area better for our time there beyond the memories, that you'll be able to walk through the ghost of our ground and think: "this was ours.... and it still is."

I'm proud of being an Evertonian, always. But if we pull this off, both the stadium and the project, we will be truly one of the greats in world football - a club that stayed true to it's roots even as it stepped into a new era, way, way beyond the lip service that many clubs pay to this, and light years away from that shower across the park.

Go to the road show if you can, take the survey and drive home how important this is. Onwards Evertonians.
 

Okay, so this is a huge thing, lot of emotion, lot at stake, lot to think about. I needed a bit of time to let it all bed in to be honest.

I've now seen a lot on line and I've been to the road show.

When I first saw it, I wasn't blown away, I thought it looked good but not revolutionary or anything. But I wasn't expecting that, there's only so much you can do with a football ground, on a river, on a rainy bit on the edge of Britain. But, I think not being stunned by it is actually a good thing on reflection.

The more I've looked at it, the more it's really grown on me, like great art. The brick and glass combination is a little odd at first, but as I got used to it I thought, yeah in the location that makes sense, its a new home, modern, but with a real nod to the past and fits in with the docklands well. There's echoes of Goodison, and that's about right, we don't want to recreate it, it has to be new. The inside I think captures some of the piecemeal nature of the old lady that I've always loved, with angular sections, its not just a circuit, its not a bowl, but maximises the space and is still 'blocky'.

I would really recommend seeing the People's Project road show, seeing the renders on a big high glossy print makes a massive difference, a lot of details start to emerge, this is definitely not some identikit ground. If you go, do the VR thing, it's great and gives you an idea of what its going to be like on match days.

I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.

However, this is only half the story and this is what's perhaps made me happiest. The final game at Goodison will be heartbreaking for me and most on here, and for blues all around the world, some of whom may never have actually been able to make it. Half of the road-show is about what we'll be leaving behind. This is obviously a longer term project, it can't start until we actually leave and the advisers at the event were honest enough to say a lot can happen over that time but the tone is hugely encouraging. There's talk of a mental health support hub, academic facilities, assisted living housing for the elderly. If this stays on track, there will be a legacy forever linking the club with the community its been part of for over a century, that will leave the area better for our time there beyond the memories, that you'll be able to walk through the ghost of our ground and think: "this was ours.... and it still is."

I'm proud of being an Evertonian, always. But if we pull this off, both the stadium and the project, we will be truly one of the greats in world football - a club that stayed true to it's roots even as it stepped into a new era, way, way beyond the lip service that many clubs pay to this, and light years away from that shower across the park.

Go to the road show if you can, take the survey and drive home how important this is. Onwards Evertonians.

ffs Ste that brought a tear to my eye that.

I was reading on the people's project website a couple of days ago and was really impressed with how in depth the information was, plans for the transport etc

Like you said, there's a lot more detail than I was initially expecting.

I was blown away straight away by the stadium design and that's only been enhanced the more I read about it.
 
Okay, so this is a huge thing, lot of emotion, lot at stake, lot to think about. I needed a bit of time to let it all bed in to be honest.

I've now seen a lot on line and I've been to the road show.

When I first saw it, I wasn't blown away, I thought it looked good but not revolutionary or anything. But I wasn't expecting that, there's only so much you can do with a football ground, on a river, on a rainy bit on the edge of Britain. But, I think not being stunned by it is actually a good thing on reflection.

The more I've looked at it, the more it's really grown on me, like great art. The brick and glass combination is a little odd at first, but as I got used to it I thought, yeah in the location that makes sense, its a new home, modern, but with a real nod to the past and fits in with the docklands well. There's echoes of Goodison, and that's about right, we don't want to recreate it, it has to be new. The inside I think captures some of the piecemeal nature of the old lady that I've always loved, with angular sections, its not just a circuit, its not a bowl, but maximises the space and is still 'blocky'.

I would really recommend seeing the People's Project road show, seeing the renders on a big high glossy print makes a massive difference, a lot of details start to emerge, this is definitely not some identikit ground. If you go, do the VR thing, it's great and gives you an idea of what its going to be like on match days.

I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.

However, this is only half the story and this is what's perhaps made me happiest. The final game at Goodison will be heartbreaking for me and most on here, and for blues all around the world, some of whom may never have actually been able to make it. Half of the road-show is about what we'll be leaving behind. This is obviously a longer term project, it can't start until we actually leave and the advisers at the event were honest enough to say a lot can happen over that time but the tone is hugely encouraging. There's talk of a mental health support hub, academic facilities, assisted living housing for the elderly. If this stays on track, there will be a legacy forever linking the club with the community its been part of for over a century, that will leave the area better for our time there beyond the memories, that you'll be able to walk through the ghost of our ground and think: "this was ours.... and it still is."

I'm proud of being an Evertonian, always. But if we pull this off, both the stadium and the project, we will be truly one of the greats in world football - a club that stayed true to it's roots even as it stepped into a new era, way, way beyond the lip service that many clubs pay to this, and light years away from that shower across the park.

Go to the road show if you can, take the survey and drive home how important this is. Onwards Evertonians.


Great post, great honesty.
 
Okay, so this is a huge thing, lot of emotion, lot at stake, lot to think about. I needed a bit of time to let it all bed in to be honest.

I've now seen a lot on line and I've been to the road show.

When I first saw it, I wasn't blown away, I thought it looked good but not revolutionary or anything. But I wasn't expecting that, there's only so much you can do with a football ground, on a river, on a rainy bit on the edge of Britain. But, I think not being stunned by it is actually a good thing on reflection.

The more I've looked at it, the more it's really grown on me, like great art. The brick and glass combination is a little odd at first, but as I got used to it I thought, yeah in the location that makes sense, its a new home, modern, but with a real nod to the past and fits in with the docklands well. There's echoes of Goodison, and that's about right, we don't want to recreate it, it has to be new. The inside I think captures some of the piecemeal nature of the old lady that I've always loved, with angular sections, its not just a circuit, its not a bowl, but maximises the space and is still 'blocky'.

I would really recommend seeing the People's Project road show, seeing the renders on a big high glossy print makes a massive difference, a lot of details start to emerge, this is definitely not some identikit ground. If you go, do the VR thing, it's great and gives you an idea of what its going to be like on match days.

I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.

However, this is only half the story and this is what's perhaps made me happiest. The final game at Goodison will be heartbreaking for me and most on here, and for blues all around the world, some of whom may never have actually been able to make it. Half of the road-show is about what we'll be leaving behind. This is obviously a longer term project, it can't start until we actually leave and the advisers at the event were honest enough to say a lot can happen over that time but the tone is hugely encouraging. There's talk of a mental health support hub, academic facilities, assisted living housing for the elderly. If this stays on track, there will be a legacy forever linking the club with the community its been part of for over a century, that will leave the area better for our time there beyond the memories, that you'll be able to walk through the ghost of our ground and think: "this was ours.... and it still is."

I'm proud of being an Evertonian, always. But if we pull this off, both the stadium and the project, we will be truly one of the greats in world football - a club that stayed true to it's roots even as it stepped into a new era, way, way beyond the lip service that many clubs pay to this, and light years away from that shower across the park.

Go to the road show if you can, take the survey and drive home how important this is. Onwards Evertonians.
Superb post that mate. Sums it up perfectly.
 

Probably a requirement nowadays. You easily fill them in at a later date. Let's get the provisional planning through and signed. Then have a tinker later
H&S etc no doubt does mean minimum numbers of exits but to meet the intimidatory requirement in the design it would surely be better if the gaping holes in the blocks of seating were not so close to the pitch. Mid way and at the top of the stand would be better (as now in the Lower Gwladys).
 
I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.
Hopefully the level of detail will mute some of the naysayers who've moaned about how long it's took to reach this point or questioned the feasibility of the project.

I've mentioned on here previously that an external party, who have links with the project, have caused delays due to the above as we've been very thorough.
 
Okay, so this is a huge thing, lot of emotion, lot at stake, lot to think about. I needed a bit of time to let it all bed in to be honest.

I've now seen a lot on line and I've been to the road show.

When I first saw it, I wasn't blown away, I thought it looked good but not revolutionary or anything. But I wasn't expecting that, there's only so much you can do with a football ground, on a river, on a rainy bit on the edge of Britain. But, I think not being stunned by it is actually a good thing on reflection.

The more I've looked at it, the more it's really grown on me, like great art. The brick and glass combination is a little odd at first, but as I got used to it I thought, yeah in the location that makes sense, its a new home, modern, but with a real nod to the past and fits in with the docklands well. There's echoes of Goodison, and that's about right, we don't want to recreate it, it has to be new. The inside I think captures some of the piecemeal nature of the old lady that I've always loved, with angular sections, its not just a circuit, its not a bowl, but maximises the space and is still 'blocky'.

I would really recommend seeing the People's Project road show, seeing the renders on a big high glossy print makes a massive difference, a lot of details start to emerge, this is definitely not some identikit ground. If you go, do the VR thing, it's great and gives you an idea of what its going to be like on match days.

I was really surprised at the level of detail on display, transport links, engineering techniques, environmental concerns, it seems like a lot of work has been done on this, more than I expected to be honest. I was really thinking on Thursday we'd just see a couple of generic sketches in a presentation, but the scale of this has got me thinking "this might just happen you know!" All of this being said, quite a few people came in for a casual look while I was there and were absolutly stunned by the plans.

However, this is only half the story and this is what's perhaps made me happiest. The final game at Goodison will be heartbreaking for me and most on here, and for blues all around the world, some of whom may never have actually been able to make it. Half of the road-show is about what we'll be leaving behind. This is obviously a longer term project, it can't start until we actually leave and the advisers at the event were honest enough to say a lot can happen over that time but the tone is hugely encouraging. There's talk of a mental health support hub, academic facilities, assisted living housing for the elderly. If this stays on track, there will be a legacy forever linking the club with the community its been part of for over a century, that will leave the area better for our time there beyond the memories, that you'll be able to walk through the ghost of our ground and think: "this was ours.... and it still is."

I'm proud of being an Evertonian, always. But if we pull this off, both the stadium and the project, we will be truly one of the greats in world football - a club that stayed true to it's roots even as it stepped into a new era, way, way beyond the lip service that many clubs pay to this, and light years away from that shower across the park.

Go to the road show if you can, take the survey and drive home how important this is. Onwards Evertonians.

Very good post this. I liked the design in the first instance, but reading the people’s project stuff shows the level of thought and planning detail that has already gone into, what is, a very complex site.

The podcast, posted on here last night with Meis in the BM pub, is very interesting, with him saying the concourses won’t be huge or high spec, and that, with our somewhat limited budget, the priority has been in getting the interior ‘bowl’ right. Meis has got some stick on here, but he speaks very well, with a degree of calm authority and understanding.

Planning approval and finance are clearly the big hurdles now, and in the next 6 - 9 months, we could be ready to go, but the way we’ve gone about this so far, has given me a bit of cautious optimism.
 
Just seen a post on RAWK saying 45k should be the maximum we should be building a stadium for because we don’t have the fanbase.

We’ve consistently sold out a 39,500 stadium, with 4,000 seats having a 50% or more obstructed view, all the while being unsuccessful. In this time, we’ve also managed to get a 15,000 waiting list for season tickets.

Making your own narrative up doesn’t make it true, you gremlins. Concentrate on trying to make Anfield a proper Premier League standard stadium. It looks like an absolute mess, with the exception of one stand. Btw, that one stand makes the whole stadium look like tiny town. A big hole puncher.
 
Just seen a post on RAWK saying 45k should be the maximum we should be building a stadium for because we don’t have the fanbase.

We’ve consistently sold out a 39,500 stadium, with 4,000 seats having a 50% or more obstructed view, all the while being unsuccessful. In this time, we’ve also managed to get a 15,000 waiting list for season tickets.

Making your own narrative up doesn’t make it true, you gremlins. Concentrate on trying to make Anfield a proper Premier League standard stadium. It looks like an absolute mess, with the exception of one stand. Btw, that one stand makes the whole stadium look like tiny town. A big hole puncher.
Ignore them mate. If they really get to you just remind them of this...
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