Walsall Blue
Player Valuation: £6m
I for one dont want anything that resembles the Emirates I want to watch the boys in an atmospheric place not a souless bowl .We need a proper football groung NSNO.
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Ashtonian
Banned on request
Little bit embarrassing again from the board, starting to feel ashamed of them being in charge of our club.
Who comes out and lays blame at the bloody council for why they can't build a stadium when the council clearly have not had anything from the club? 'We are going to build a new stadium, we are ready to do it!' , 'really Mr Elstone? First i've heard of it'.
Who comes out and lays blame at the bloody council for why they can't build a stadium when the council clearly have not had anything from the club? 'We are going to build a new stadium, we are ready to do it!' , 'really Mr Elstone? First i've heard of it'.
Ashtonian
Banned on request
At least then there was 101 reasons to fall back on mate, jesus this time Elstone says that and within minutes Anderson has tweeted he is lying out his behind!
Not to mention that questions from the shareholders were dismissed on the night, how dare you ask us these things, we won't answer them for you. Just feels like banging your head against a wall, the team start to do well yet off the pitch it's just a monkey circus still.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
If I was the club, or a representative of the club, and was convinced that WHP was the best option, then this is what should be said:
There is a case for saying that the City Council should contribute to a large scale regeneration project.
Currently WHP is a liability as far as the council is concerned. (I am looking at this from a financial perspective, of course in reality it is a local amenity and an asset to local residents). It's a liability to the council as it carries a negative yield, ie it costs the council money to run and maintain and there's no potential to generate income as a park.
Along comes a private company and says we'll invest and build on your land, turning a liability into an income producing asset. Not only that, by virtue of that development we will also attract other tenants/developments and add to the regeneration of the area.
Put in those terms, whereby a stadium becomes the enabler for regeneration and turns a liability into an asset is it unreasonable to ask for a contribution from the landlord? (The council).
These sort of deals go on every day up and down the country. Why should it be different because it's a football club building a stadium?
That's the argument that needs presenting. It's not a handout that is being called for, it's a recognition of a private business leading regeneration turning a liability into an asset.
There is a case for saying that the City Council should contribute to a large scale regeneration project.
Currently WHP is a liability as far as the council is concerned. (I am looking at this from a financial perspective, of course in reality it is a local amenity and an asset to local residents). It's a liability to the council as it carries a negative yield, ie it costs the council money to run and maintain and there's no potential to generate income as a park.
Along comes a private company and says we'll invest and build on your land, turning a liability into an income producing asset. Not only that, by virtue of that development we will also attract other tenants/developments and add to the regeneration of the area.
Put in those terms, whereby a stadium becomes the enabler for regeneration and turns a liability into an asset is it unreasonable to ask for a contribution from the landlord? (The council).
These sort of deals go on every day up and down the country. Why should it be different because it's a football club building a stadium?
That's the argument that needs presenting. It's not a handout that is being called for, it's a recognition of a private business leading regeneration turning a liability into an asset.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
why's there never been a football stadium built that can also be used as a horse track around the outside?
surely they could accommodate stables outside. you see athletics ones, but not horses? the attendance figures are hardly too different.
surely they could accommodate stables outside. you see athletics ones, but not horses? the attendance figures are hardly too different.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
The Emirates is a proper football ground, a very good football ground that experiences more of an atmosphere than Goodison does. Goodison is a library most of the time, and there is no benefit in choosing a sub-standard New Den effort over prestigious stadium designs like the Emirates.
Big, prestigious clubs build grounds like the Emirates. Small, impoverished wool clubs go for the cheap, Kirkby, New Den, Ewood Park options.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Tend to agree with you there. The Emirates took a while to get going as a stadium with atmosphere, and a more traditional layout as opposed to a bowl, would have probably helped in that respect ( For ages I've been anti-bowls)
But, I was down there the other month and when you walk round the place and then go inside you get a real sense of a proper stadium now and I much prefer it to, say, Wembley. We don't need as much capacity as the Emirates, but if that model could be repeated as a 50 to 55k seater stadium then I'd be happy enough with that.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Ha ha ha, you want the new Goodison to double as Circus Maximus?!
Frankly, dual sport venues are abysmal, and the idea of a horse track around it is just mental chat. Not to mention that a horse track is substantially larger than a running track:
JordanianEmbassy
Player Valuation: £5m
Disagree. The Emirates is badly designed. The lower tier is too far away from the pitch and the rake is far too shallow. The middle tier "ring of silence" doesn't help either.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
I want one of those crazy American stadiums with a massive window at one end.
TheFinnFan
Finners
Lets just pray and hope that some filthy rich consortium takes over and builds us a stadium made out of gold.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
Ha ha ha, you want the new Goodison to double as Circus Maximus?!
Frankly, dual sport venues are abysmal, and the idea of a horse track around it is just mental chat. Not to mention that a horse track is substantially larger than a running track:
i wasn't putting it up as an idea mine, was just something that popped into my head. I have no idea about horse racing, so had no idea about the length etc, they could make it smaller like you have 60m, 90m, 100m sprinting etc?
I was just thinking along the lines of the council having to see more benefit than purely a football stadium - a multi-purpose stadium would make them more inclined probably and horse racing is more popular up there than in most places.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
whoever takes over from this current board is going to be astounded at how poorly run we are. they'll be a bit shocked unless they themselves are out of their depth.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Personally I would be utterly appalled and disgusted if we threw ourselves in with the racing community.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't think we are 'poorly run'. We are probably quite well run for a middle of the road team with no ambition and no know how on how to go to the next level. That's the major issue with the Board and Bobby.
But we are Everton. Of the Nil Satis kind. We deserve better after so long being middle of the road.