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New Everton Stadium

The problem I foresee with the Suprastadio concept is the view from the tiers. I think fans would have a similar 'letter box' view like you get at the back of the Lower Bullens or Gwladys Street....where you have to look right down to see the pitch and straight ahead the above stand blocks the view of the rest of the stadium/crowd. It's terrible.

IMO you need to be able to see pitch, crowd and a little sky above the opposite stand.
 
The problem I foresee with the Suprastadio concept is the view from the tiers. I think fans would have a similar 'letter box' view like you get at the back of the Lower Bullens or Gwladys Street....where you have to look right down to see the pitch and straight ahead the above stand blocks the view of the rest of the stadium/crowd. It's terrible.

IMO you need to be able to see pitch, crowd and a little sky above the opposite stand.


This whole thing strikes me as an Architectural student project. After looking at this a little closer with a learned colleague, there's loads wrong with it and it just wouldn't work, or pass planning/safety certificates. For a small example, the highest recommended rake on a tier is 37.5°. The ones at the top there seem to be more like 60°. Also, recommendations state that there should be equal square meterage for the concourse as there is for the seating is serves so as to maintain the density at full capacity, not allowing for concourse refreshment stalls etc. It looks to me on that image that no concourse at all has been allowed for the upper tiers, so you'd have to go downstairs to what will be a HUGE ground floor concourse. Outside of all this, you have to also consider the view. That upper tier will be akin to looking out of a 12 story window of an office block. The people with a window seat would be able to see the pitch, maybe not the 1st meter of it, but certainly most of it, however the person behind them would see all but about the first 5m, then the person behind that all but the first 12, you can see where I'm going with this.

This whole stadium idea is a non-starter.
 
Reading that part of the princes dock has had application for skyscraper put in.

Is this going to impact on any potential move for us? Is it same dock ?!
 
This whole thing strikes me as an Architectural student project. After looking at this a little closer with a learned colleague, there's loads wrong with it and it just wouldn't work, or pass planning/safety certificates. For a small example, the highest recommended rake on a tier is 37.5°. The ones at the top there seem to be more like 60°. Also, recommendations state that there should be equal square meterage for the concourse as there is for the seating is serves so as to maintain the density at full capacity, not allowing for concourse refreshment stalls etc. It looks to me on that image that no concourse at all has been allowed for the upper tiers, so you'd have to go downstairs to what will be a HUGE ground floor concourse. Outside of all this, you have to also consider the view. That upper tier will be akin to looking out of a 12 story window of an office block. The people with a window seat would be able to see the pitch, maybe not the 1st meter of it, but certainly most of it, however the person behind them would see all but about the first 5m, then the person behind that all but the first 12, you can see where I'm going with this.

This whole stadium idea is a non-starter.
spoil sport
 
Reading that part of the princes dock has had application for skyscraper put in.

Is this going to impact on any potential move for us? Is it same dock ?!
None whatsoever , this is at the southern end of Liverpool Waters .
The stadium would be going the Norhern end , it's a big site !
 


For a better view type "Clarence Graving docks " into google maps and that , I presume , is the site for the new stadium ( hopefully )

The most likely site is Trafalgar, just next to Clarence as far as I understand, but yeah, not far off. Both essentially the same place like.

There will be lots of development around it, and running back from it. Costco are proving a tough nut to crack though, from what I've heard.
 
The most likely site is Trafalgar, just next to Clarence as far as I understand, but yeah, not far off. Both essentially the same place like.

There will be lots of development around it, and running back from it. Costco are proving a tough nut to crack though, from what I've heard.
Newbie here,forgive the ignorance but why are Costco proving difficult,would we have to buy their land?
 
Newbie here,forgive the ignorance but why are Costco proving difficult,would we have to buy their land?
Yes Costco own all that land , I've done work for them in the past , a very tough customer , doubt they'll sell .
The same issues arose over the proposed 54 storey skyscraper that was gonna be built on the old King Edward pub site !
 

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