New Everton Stadium

The binman chronicles said:
7th biggest in the league. Capacity doesn't really tell the story though, the premium seat section alone brings in more than the whole of Goodison. So that's around 5k of the seats pulling in Goodison's total. Should turnover much more in terms of snacks and beverages once we move, in fact I think we already struck a fairly healthy deal for that pa. Then we add in the extra sponsorship, our kit deal is supposedly far exceeding market value because they wanted the exclusivity of being a founding partner (given us +10m over the previous one despite our falling stock). There will be more deals to come like the RB deal reported today. Hopefully a juicy naming rights sponsor to come.

Look at the matchday income per club and see how low we are - there are mistakes in the data but generally it is correct in terms of placement, technically we'd probably be lower if it wasn't the end of Goodison and therefore people want to go to the match despite us being crap:

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See how much Brighton earn more than us, then if they finish above us a few places in the league, they have a stack more cash than us so we have to be perfect to catch them. We all know that is the other way around so the gap grows.

Your point about the debt for the stadium is a salient one, if the debts are restructured we should earn more than we spend, especially given the income figures banded about. How much more depends on how well we restructure. Staying at Goodison would have condemned us to years more pain, whilst stadiums increased in price to deliver and just postponed the inevitable that we were going to have to go through at some point in time.
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both Southampton and Brighton have new grounds, be interesting in 2 years time where we will be
 
BullensRoad said:
Not fully at fault, but staying in a ancient locked in, wooden stadium, with NO ROOM to expand (apart from the Park End) or upgrade the facilities is a major factor.

You'll post something now to highlight how you know something about the technicalities and what you worked on in the past - that won't change my level of thinking I'm afraid. Goodison is rotting and needs bulldozing so people can enjoy going the match as opposed to boomers who think it's a sacred cathedral.
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Many stadia didn't have the room to expand in the early 90s. That didn't stop them from doing precisely that, and the same applied to GP.

Only 2 clubs have moved to new over-50k stadium, that they've funded themselves, because cost per seat can rise exponentially with capacity and any margin for viability tightens or completely vanishes with every few thousand increase in proposed capacity. Both those clubs also had a far higher capacity and higher value corporate to offset the cost, and their financial models had no problems securing the funds from major financial institutions. At no point has this project secured similar. Hence our reliance on high interest payday loans and the owner being expected to walk away with a half-billion+ pound haircut, to keep our heads above water. That process has thus far failed at least twice and is not complete yet. So, no-one knows where it will leave us financially.

There is only one sacred cow and that's the club.
 


BullensRoad said:
Interesting, how is it harder for a lot of people? You think on the docks of the Mersey isn't a better location?
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Well I live in West Derby. I can walk the match now in an hour or bus it. Were as the new ground is its too far to walk, the bus only takes me to queen square so its at least a 30 min walk from there (after a bus ride) and there is zero trains. That goes for Norris Green/Croxteth aswell.
Its next to a river surrounded by derelict buildings and wasteland. Yes it might be thriving down there in 20 years but id prefer it to be in the middle of the city like Goodison not a place were nobody ventures.
 
fitzyefc said:
Well I live in West Derby. I can walk the match now in an hour or bus it. Were as the new ground is its too far to walk, the bus only takes me to queen square so its at least a 30 min walk from there (after a bus ride) and there is zero trains. That goes for Norris Green/Croxteth aswell.
Its next to a river surrounded by derelict buildings and wasteland. Yes it might be thriving down there in 20 years but id prefer it to be in the middle of the city like Goodison not a place were nobody ventures.
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It's not all about you pal.
 
fitzyefc said:
Well I live in West Derby. I can walk the match now in an hour or bus it. Were as the new ground is its too far to walk, the bus only takes me to queen square so its at least a 30 min walk from there (after a bus ride) and there is zero trains. That goes for Norris Green/Croxteth aswell.
Its next to a river surrounded by derelict buildings and wasteland. Yes it might be thriving down there in 20 years but id prefer it to be in the middle of the city like Goodison not a place were nobody ventures.
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Exactly the same as me when I lived there mate. We moved out and now my journey to the new ground area is difficult to get to on public transport and parking up a car would be hard around there, especially when permit holders only parking comes in to force, as it has from Goodison right down Cherry lane to Townsend ave. My best bet on a match day there would be to drive to Allerton or similar, park up and get the bus, as we do now when we are going to the city centre.
 

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