New Everton Stadium

[Brisan123]

Everyone thinking this new ground is going to make a difference, Everton have been rubbish on every other premier league ground, why is this place going to be different?

James said different during Covid at your place

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Everyone thinking this new ground is going to make a difference, Everton have been rubbish on every other premier league ground, why is this place going to be different?

 

[BullensRoad]

1. They didn't start filling it per se, just allowed water to re-enter. At the southern end is an isolation structure which has pipes through it which can be closed off via penstock valves/ sluice gates. These are what the series of manholes are for at the surface above. These seperate the largely 'fresh' water to the south from the 'brackish' water in the northern docks.

At the northern end we have built a bridge, the only physical thing preventing the water from the northern docks entering the waterway was the sand infill. All LoR have done is remove this to allow water to re-enter. You could argue they could have removed a bit more of the remaining sand before allowing the water back in but nevertheless, they would always have to remove the last bit of sand whilst there was water present.

2. The concrete wall was needed adjacent to the West Stand because no existing dock wall was present here. The concrete section on the floor just forms part of what is essentially a retaining wall. The sand has been retained elsewhere to act as a natural bed and effectively mimic the rest of the docks. This will largely be for ecological purposes, that and there is no engineering need for the bed to be concrete.

No risk of this being disturbed, there will be little to no flow through this area except when they need to top the Leeds-Liverpool canal up through the dock system.

3. There aren't any pumps. The waterway is physically connected to the northern docks as we have built a bridge and not an isolation structure as per the southern end. This allows the brackish water from the northern docks to flow in and out of the waterway; not that there will be much in the way of 'flow' although Peel do maintain water in the dock system at/around a certain level. I believe that the southern isolation structure will remain closed most of the time, only being opened when there is a need to top up the canal/ southern docks.

You can see from the image below, pre-development the water in Bramley Moore dock was the same as the Northern Docks, with everything to the South through the Canal/ Dock system being largely fresh water. This will be the same following completion of the waterway.

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Love they're keeping the original dock wall in its original places.

Wouldn't want to be one of the players falling on one though on the touchlines behind the goal.

I saw on a drone video, where it goes towards the fan plaza, looks like it will be present on the concourse floor?

 

[Jacko93]

Everyone thinking this new ground is going to make a difference, Everton have been rubbish on every other premier league ground, why is this place going to be different?

Because playing at away grounds doesn't increase our overall income and ability to compete financially you absolute balloon.

 

[BullensRoad]

Because the waterway is linked to the Northern dock system which is brackish i.e. a mixture of fresh water and sea water.

The adjacent Southern docks are fed by the Leeds Liverpool Canal so are largely fresh water. Although they are topped up when needed by the brackish water from the Northern Docks so it isn't entirely fresh water.

Will it become more blueish then when it's fully connected/flowing?

 

[tr_efc]

Because playing at away grounds doesn't increase our overall income and ability to compete financially you absolute balloon.

 

[tommye]

Any idea why its not the dark blue fresh water like the next dock?

Nelson Dock and beyond towards Pier Head are freshwater and the rest from BM and back towards Crosby are salt water fed from the river

 

[tommye]

Probably due to all the sand that's been disturbed, like @Kever10 i couldn't understand why they let water in before it was completely dug out, surely they've made the job that much harder ?

The remaining sand will form a natural bed to the channel

 

[AndyRJ]

Love they're keeping the original dock wall in its original places.

Wouldn't want to be one of the players falling on one though on the touchlines behind the goal.

I saw on a drone video, where it goes towards the fan plaza, looks like it will be present on the concourse floor?

I had read somewhere that it was going to be visible through the concourse but i've not seen anything to suggest it actually is. It would be a great feature if they could manage to achieve it.

 

[AndyRJ]

Will it become more blueish then when it's fully connected/flowing?

It's murky at the minute because they still removing the sand, it will settle eventually and match the colour of the water in the northern docks.

Be thankful it's not the same colour as the Mersey

 

[tommye]

I had read somewhere that it was going to be visible through the concourse but i've not seen anything to suggest it actually is. It would be a great feature if they could manage to achieve it.

@muckers Could possibly confirm this?

 

[maccavennie]

 

[tirion]

James said different during Covid at your place

As usual someone has an opinion you don’t like so start with the kopite shouts, no new ground is going to make the slightest bit of difference, if in doubt see Spurs, Stoke City, Derby County, Middlesbrough

 

[tirion]

Because playing at away grounds doesn't increase our overall income and ability to compete financially you absolute balloon.

We won’t even get near the established big clubs financially, it might just about keep us solvent

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

As usual someone has an opinion you don’t like so start with the kopite shouts, no new ground is going to make the slightest bit of difference, if in doubt see Spurs, Stoke City, Derby County, Middlesbrough