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New Everton Stadium

SC is a beer desert - one new pub has sprung up - The Vikings Landing" opposite the proposed development but I cannot think of any decent pubs within at least a mile - swerve !! No rail links either - Northern Line to the City centre nearest stations are Kirkby and Fazackerley......
Sounds like Reading!
 

....was in the Trafford Centre yesterday, I didn't know that was Peel Holdings. They must have some portfolio of land.

They have a large portfolio (Liverpool Waters doesnt seem to be their main focus at moment by the way), but on the whole they are developers, as in enablers for development to occur. In layman's terms (this is not aimed at you by the way), if you buy a piece of land for say £100,000, you then get someone (should always be an architect!!) to draw up plans for 'a house' to be built on the site. If the plans are approved, the site is now worth more than you paid for it. That is obviously, a simplistic version of what the dockland site is, but still pertinent when you consider what Peels main purpose is - make money without tying up capital, propose a development and reap the benefits. Peel need partners (people to buy the 'drawn up plans'), it doesn't seem overly active at the moment, so they imo will be ready to negotiate. Follow the link and see what you think, but bear in mind the £5bn value is the finalised value of the entire project (containing the whole site, plans, building, wages and whatever else it takes to build it).

http://www.peel.co.uk/liverpool-waters
Liverpool Waters
With a future development value of £5 billion, Liverpool Waters will transform the city’s northern docks to create a high quality waterfront quarter of residential, commercial and leisure space for central Liverpool. The Quay at Princes Dock, adjacent to the iconic Liver Building, sits at the heart of Liverpool Waters and already plays host to a wide range of key occupiers.
 
That's their head office as well. In the dome. I think that the car that's placed in there, cant remember the make, and old one, was his Mothers car or something.
A turquoise blue Mercedes Benz 350SL.

And Peel owns massive chunks of land all over the place. Teeside and JL airports, the land where the Salford stadium is, the land where Blackburn Ice Rink is... They're a huge outfit !!
 
How do you mean? SC is right on the east lancs, very good links to the motorway, 4/5 different buses you can get. Probably better dispersal rate than around goodison

Goodison has one of the highest dispersal rates of any ground in the league. We also have a large percentage (possibly the highest, can't remember) of walk-up supporters in the League. We must not under any circumstances make it more difficult for the public to attend matches.

As for good road connections, many people on this thread have already cited how inadequate the road infrastructure is and regardless private driving to arenas is now capped by policy (I think).

4 or 5 buses is nowhere near good enough for a stadium holding around 50k in that location. Remember Kirkby (which has a single track rail line also) needed to have one of the busiest bus stations in the country to ease dispersal (which entailed hiring of actual buses from as far away as Yorkshire). The same would be required at SC which is similarly unsuitable for mass transit without major investment.

The below from Trevor Skempton encaptulates it perfectly for me....

1. Inner-city or City Centre location. The stadium should be easily accessible by public transport. The city centre is by far the best place for this as public transport capacity drops exponentially with distance from the city centre. Matches are played at the weekends or in the evening, when there is plenty of spare parking capacity. The stadium can contribute to the overall image of the city, alongside theatres, cathedrals and civic buildings. The inner-city is the next best thing.
 
Does your source have a council connection or a club connection ? I only ask because it seems unlikely that a council insider would have any inkling of the dealings between the club and Peel Holdings.

I won't give too much away but my source is certainly NOT at the club end - hence why I have nothing whatsoever on transfers etc, and only get snippets on the stadium stuff. I try to only pass on concrete stuff - I'm not what I would class as an ITK! But a few small bits I've had have proved spot on (SC interest; WHP being dead; the London meeting).

You're right on my source not having too much insight on Peel - but that was the line I got from them. I'm perfectly willing to accept that it's not 100% accurate - but whether it's no price received or no price agreed, it's becoming clear that there's no deal in place but we're working on it, whilst LCC continue to hope it falls through and we're left with SC.

As I said way back in March when I first mentioned SC - Everton putting a stadium at SC solves a myriad of problems for LCC. It's only natural they would prefer it. They've had various things fall through there after promises made, and the area desperately needs regeneration - the it's a space that's long been earmarked for regeneration, hence the Liverpool Vision brochure. EFC would be a major boost to that local economy.

That said - if EFC did get a dock site, the Council would have to be involved from an infrastructure point of view, so they do have some involvement there even if they're not privvy to the negotiations.
 

Thing is I don't understand is why the council believe they have to do anything with SC. It was a council estate built in the 50's/60's and served its purpose. The city needs to fall back in on itself. It was fields in the 1940's, it should be fields again in the 2020's and onwards.
 

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