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New Everton Stadium

Msg the fan services on twitter got this reply about the tickets for next season Hi Michael, Everton Stadium will be a digital-first stadium and new technologies will be used to enhance and improve the supporter experience across the stadium. The Club is exploring and developing policies that will ensure assistance and support is available for those who need it. More information on the entry process at Everton Stadium will be communicated ahead of the stadium opening for events and matches.
 
More people moaning about the size of the ground, as too many are missing ....which begs the question, how big would it have needed to be, for EVERYONE to get a ST, and nobody to moan.

My view is that not everyone on the waiting list would take up the option when it comes, and I think many are on the list so they can say, they are on the list.

I attended a shareholders meeting with the club, not long after the announcement regards the capacity. Some members of the EFCSA committee voiced their concerns about the capacity at that time, as there was already a growing waiting list (albeit much smaller than now). The club's response at that point was that, while they thought that the waiting list represented a healthy surplus in demand, they said that they worked on the principle that they only expected a percentage take-up by those on ANY such waiting list (as you infer), and this, combined with the research on actual demand, led to the chosen capacity. Of course, that list has grown substantially since then, but I'm not sure if everyone pays to be on it.

Planning for capacity is a bit like trying to hit a moving target. However, costs can rise almost exponentially with capacity. If 53k cost £750m or more, how much would 60-65k cost? Would that have led to further increases in tkt prices? How would that affect demand? At those prices, would many on the season ticket list simply start picking and choosing their games?

All those potential knock-on effects could easily have led the club to err on the side of caution regards capacity..... but 13k more tickets for home fans is still a fairly substantial 36% increase.
 

I attended a shareholders meeting with the club, not long after the announcement regards the capacity. Some members of the EFCSA committee voiced their concerns about the capacity at that time, as there was already a growing waiting list (albeit much smaller than now). The club's response at that point was that, while they thought that the waiting list represented a healthy surplus in demand, they said that they worked on the principle that they only expected a percentage take-up by those on ANY such waiting list (as you infer), and this, combined with the research on actual demand, led to the chosen capacity. Of course, that list has grown substantially since then, but I'm not sure if everyone pays to be on it.

Planning for capacity is a bit like trying to hit a moving target. However, costs can rise almost exponentially with capacity. If 53k cost £750m or more, how much would 60-65k cost? Would that have led to further increases in tkt prices? How would that affect demand? At those prices, would many on the season ticket list simply start picking and choosing their games?

All those potential knock-on effects could easily have led the club to err on the side of caution regards capacity..... but 13k more tickets for home fans is still a fairly substantial 36% increase.
Hi Tom, do you know for expansions what the current cost per seat is? I know it's very subjective. But I recall about 20+ years ago when various clubs were looking at expanding capacity, a figure of around £7,500 per seat was bandied around. I assume that this was on the basis that much of the servicing (e.g. turnstiles, catering, toilets) etc. had been sunken in, and crowd management wasn't an issue. If this was the figure back around the turn of the century, I'd be interested to know what it is now.

I recall that West Ham did a large expansion at the old Boleyn Ground - one away game you could see the new stand emerging from behind the current one. Then it seemed within 10-15 years they were moving to the Olympics Stadium.
 
I attended a shareholders meeting with the club, not long after the announcement regards the capacity. Some members of the EFCSA committee voiced their concerns about the capacity at that time, as there was already a growing waiting list (albeit much smaller than now). The club's response at that point was that, while they thought that the waiting list represented a healthy surplus in demand, they said that they worked on the principle that they only expected a percentage take-up by those on ANY such waiting list (as you infer), and this, combined with the research on actual demand, led to the chosen capacity. Of course, that list has grown substantially since then, but I'm not sure if everyone pays to be on it.

Planning for capacity is a bit like trying to hit a moving target. However, costs can rise almost exponentially with capacity. If 53k cost £750m or more, how much would 60-65k cost? Would that have led to further increases in tkt prices? How would that affect demand? At those prices, would many on the season ticket list simply start picking and choosing their games?

All those potential knock-on effects could easily have led the club to err on the side of caution regards capacity..... but 13k more tickets for home fans is still a fairly substantial 36% increase.
I remember Meis mentioning that the cost of a seat on the top rows cost something like 8x more than one at the bottom in terms of construction costs. This is due to needing more steel, concrete, larger roof, more facilities, toilets, stair wells, lifts and concourses etc.

Newcastle are getting estimates of £1bn to upgrade SJP (albeit that needs more than just expansion).
I'd estimate that increasing capacity by another 10/15k via expansion and raising the roof would cost in the region of £300m to £500m, (likely closer to the latter price due to recent inflation and interest rate increases).

In the short term its likelier that any increases in capacity to BMD will be via squeezing in seats more efficiently or by applying for safe standing at ratio's greater than 1:1. With Euro 2028 coming up its unlikely that any major construction will take place between now and then.

In the medium term 2030 onwards I'd hazard a guess that we may see small increases to the South and North Stands (through the glass and then extending the roof over a little).

In the long term ( say 2040 onwards), You would need the roof to be raised for a third tier to be added to increase by 10/15k onwards. This will only ever be done if there is significant demand for it due to the costs, its likely that the big driver would be demand for more boxes/hospitality spaces to make it a cost effective exercise. So any increases on that scale would also see a row of corporate between the now top of the second tier and a new third tier.
 


@Convoy1044 and @bluesteak

Confirmed in this article it will be enhanced so that you will see a specific section view 👍

At the point Season Ticket sales begin in the new year, Virtual Venue will be further enhanced, giving Evertonians the chance to see the view from every individual seat, helping them make their final decision on where to buy.

Supporters will also have the ability to easily share views they have found with friends and family via messaging apps or social media.
Also this:


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Heard rumours about a 20% increase year on year, hope that is just a rumour, that will price a lot of people out of buying a season ticket, especially as you said people with kids.
If there were to do that, the price increase for next year would have been much higher. Much easier to market a new ground than it is a year old ground, or two year old.
If I were you, I'd question the source of those rumours.
 
Not this again. It's a 30 minute walk from the Liver Building to the new stadium for anyone who is not super fit and going at a fair lick.

Nick Drone did it on one of his videos about 6 months ago. He was surprised at the distance.
I mean fairly obviously it just depends how fast you walk. I can do it in 20 pretty easily, if i'm walking with my dad who's a pensioner it'd be more like 40.
 

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