New Everton Stadium

[tbone1970]

Quite like the look of that artist impression.
Are there more of the same but from different angles, aerial view etc ?

I cant find any more pics, this was from a design website, but it was quickly removed for some reason, I cant remember the name of the website either!!

 

[Fedlingen]

What is the problem with people with knowledge of the situation, although not directly involved, informing a forum that the stadium issue is further advanced than reported by the local media?

I'm not advocating wild speculation, of which to my knowledge there has been none, but surely one of the principal points of a forum is to share information, often ahead of official sources or media.

The specifics are too sensitive for a public forum but a general nod in terms of the amount of progress is reasonable in my opinion.

It's a true love / hate relashionship ^^

 

[AndyC]

I cant find any more pics, this was from a design website, but it was quickly removed for some reason, I cant remember the name of the website either!!

No worries

 

[tbone1970]

http://wilsonowensowens.com/everton-football-club-stadium/

Found the link and as you can see it's been removed!!

 

[one2bbop]

I did like this one that came about a couple of months ago.

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Reminds me of Boltons ground, whatever it's called nowadays, The Dogshit Stadium or whatever

 

[Taff]

It needs to be the premier multi-event venue of the North West alongside the Etihad. I think we'll have to compromise a bit on it being an old-school bearpit.

A Lucas-Oil-style-Bearpit. Sold!

 

[The Esk]

There's been a lot of discussion about Moshiri's ability to fund a brand new dockside world class iconic stadium.

I've indicated before that BHH has the potential to raise perhaps £400 million should that be the funding vehicle, however I'll throw another option into the melting pot.

It's not inconceivable that the stadium may not be owned by Everton Football Club. It could be that a seperate entity with different shareholders to Everton (but including Moshiri) could fund the stadium and associated developments with Everton being the anchor tennant.

I'm not saying this will be the case, just putting it out there as an alternative model (similar to West Ham albeit with private funders not taxpayers as is the case with their stadium).

 

[Gerbs]

I like the idea of something similar to Lucas Oil for a couple of reasons. 1) I think it would fit in well on the docks. I personally don't think it would look good to have some modern space looking stadium surrounded by classic brick buildings. 2) I think the Lucas Oil stadium has a timeless look that will be classy 20 years from now. The "artist rendition from a couple months ago" looks fine now, but I think will look cheesy 10 years form now. Brick is always classy.

Again just my opinion

 

[everton2004]

There's been a lot of discussion about Moshiri's ability to fund a brand new dockside woeld class iconic stadium.

I've indicated before that BHH has the potential to raise perhaps £400 million should that be the funding vehicle, however I'll throw another option into the melting pot.

It's not inconceivable that the stadium may not be owned by Everton Football Club. It could be that a seperate entity with different shareholders to Everton (but including Moshiri) could fund the stadium and associated developments with Everton being the anchor tennant.

I'm not saying this will be the case, just putting it out there as an alternative model (similar to West Ham albeit with private funders not taxpayers as is the case with their stadium).

Hmm....interesting, but not an idea I'm keen on. It would be like what we did with FF and leave Everton Football Club with the players as it's only real assets. I'm far from a business expert here, just how I perceive it. Would much prefer it if the stadium was funded by the club and we had full ownership of it.

 

[RaleighBlue]

I see a lot of people clamoring for 'modern' and 'futuristic' and I totally get that. But you have to remember that today's modern and futuristic is outdated and gauche 20 years from now.

Ideally the design will be iconic, elegant, and timeless. The Allianz looks stunning today. But I wonder whether it will in 2045. Stadiums last a long time, tastes and modern sensibilities tend not to. I tend to prefer things that have a greater chance of aging well (and looking good while not brand spanking new and clean).

Lucas Oil doesn't really do it for me either perse (although I'm having a hell of a time figuring out why), but I think something with a brick or industrial design base with modern flair on top of it wouldn't go amiss.

Heavy use of glass and stone or brick would do me nicely.

 

[everton2004]

I like the idea of something similar to Lucas Oil for a couple of reasons. 1) I think it would fit in well on the docks. I personally don't think it would look good to have some modern space looking stadium surrounded by classic brick buildings. 2) I think the Lucas Oil stadium has a timeless look that will be classy 20 years from now. The "artist rendition from a couple months ago" looks fine now, but I think will look cheesy 10 years form now. Brick is always classy.

Again just my opinion

Similar to my thoughts on this - new futuristic designs can have the "wow" factor initially, but can have the nasty habit of dating badly.

I'll admit, until yesterday I was completely unaware of the existence of the Lucas Oil stadium. Now that I've seen it, I do think that would be a superb style in which to build the stadium. Done correctly, it would fit perfectly with the surroundings and would be less prone to becoming "dated". I'd love it if we ended up with something like that.

 

[The Esk]

Hmm....interesting, but not an idea I'm keen on. It would be like what we did with FF and leave Everton Football Club with the players as it's only real assets. I'm far from a business expert here, just how I perceive it. Would much prefer it if the stadium was funded by the club and we had full ownership of it.

I'm pretty sure the stadium will be owned by the club however it's good to be aware there are alternate models.

 

[Martin G]

Are we certain that it will be a Dockside stadium, i have this horrible feeling it could end up being the Stonebridge Cross option.

 

[R934]

What is the problem with people with knowledge of the situation, although not directly involved, informing a forum that the stadium issue is further advanced than reported by the local media?

I'm not advocating wild speculation, of which to my knowledge there has been none, but surely one of the principal points of a forum is to share information, often ahead of official sources or media [...]

Speculative guesswork when people fester on every word you utter is the problem. We can all make vague comments, but when you have a position to 'sell' your theory people begin to believe. With all due respect, I can not see how you are at privy to such sensitive information, alongside transfers and the inner workings of Usmanov - yet statistics don't support a claim you have made.
The problem with 'knowledge', knowledge is power, and you're putting yourself on a pedestal to make sweepingly vague statements, that creates disappointment to the fan base if they fail to materialise. We can all make claims, we can all pass knowledge, but sometimes in life its best to admit no knowledge. There is no shame in not knowing the inner working of a business, so lets not pretend other wise.

Please don't see this are targeting, but you are fortunate enough to have a higher platform, and I feel you are contradictory and vague on many an issue - yet are happy to shoot others down for believing something outside your 'inner circle of knowledge' - Usmanov for example.

@The Esk I've said this before (as below quote) but its's still relevant - how can you proclaim to know the inner workings of Usmanov when you had no idea what was going on between him and Moshiri. Remembering rightly you were discussing Moores and Noel with no knowledge of the truer takeover. Now we're lead to believe you have sources close to Usmanov, alongside all the other transfer gurus you consult?
If anything this transfer window and speculative guesswork has proved Everton are keeping business under wraps, not one of your 'he's ours' proclamations have came true, and nor one source predicted the current signing we have made.

@The Esk With all due respect, to assume you know anything regarding the mindset of Usmanov is odd. The fact nobody was any the wiser regarding this 'takeover' and going of other threads its clear, yourself along with many other blues were debating Moores and Noel, shows its impossible to guess what's happening behind the scenes. That's not to say Usmanov will invest into Everton - far from it - but at the same time, it isn't wise to state against that. Anything is in the realms of possibility, so to discount it is like I said rather odd. Everyone is entitled to a say, so not attempting to shoot anyone down, but lets be honest your post comes over as a firm 'it's not happening for X Y & Z, forget about it'. You clearly know your stuff, going of other posts but on this issue, you've clearly used a platform to talk down other peoples opinions. Simple fact is you and me both, have no idea what's happening or will happen for that matter, so let's not pretend otherwise.

 

[everton2004]

Are we certain that it will be a Dockside stadium, i have this horrible feeling it could end up being the Stonebridge Cross option.

Why else would we be negotiating with Peel for the docks site (or agreed a deal to buy it depending on who you listen to). SC is a none starter - there'll be another retail park there provided Knowsley don't block it.