New Main Stand

[Muggins]

Changing subject slightly, what about this above the park end stand:

It's a row of boxes, some seating then 2 more rows of boxes.

FFS Fulham are building out over the river thames, surely we could do something on solid ground..

Mate you're not changing the subject at all, this is what the thread was supposed to be about, I think.

Great idea though. As a short term cash injection, I do wonder the engineering and labour costs for installing a boxes above the single tier. It may be a really good option.

I do believe the Park End was built with the possibility of expansion, but I may be wrong.

 

[edge]

Mate you're not changing the subject at all, this is what the thread was supposed to be about, I think.Great idea though. As a short term cash injection, I do wonder the engineering and labour costs for installing a boxes above the single tier. It may be a really good option.I do believe the Park End was built with the possibility of expansion, but I may be wrong.

your not wrong it was supposed to be designed to take a further teir on top

 

[Dooguk]

well im 51 as nobody else has owed up to there age, i will go first

I'll raise your 51 as I'm 58, so there.

 

[Dooguk]

You have drink problem. Get it sorted.

YOU obviously have a drink problem.
Do you think for one minute that most of the match going public want to be shunted to the game,
and when its finished shunted back out again. Get real.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

GP is ideal for the Championship that is for sure. GP is Everton's FOUTH home. It is not part of Everton's identity no more the home you live in is a part of yours. GP is way past its sell by date being 100% inadequate for a top club. The club realize this and are committed to moving. CLOSED. Not worth going over, as that house has been beaten to death. The club is leaving just get used to it. It is for your benefit as a fan as well. I do not want to watch Championship games in a crap, outdated, partly wooden construction ground. Fine, you do. I suggest Tranmere for you.

Staying at GP will propel the club downwards for sure. It has done in the past 20 odd years as all others took over in high revenue stadia. The club should not be in the business to maintain the pre and post match ale house routine of a minority of loud fans.

Walton Lane Station for you:
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/walton_and_anfield/

Thanks for the link, that would have been Everton's station for 55 years!
We're not going to agree on the identity aspect or moving, that's fine. I personally feel that Barcelona's identity would would be different if they played at the Reebok stadium for example. For me, defining a clubs identity is different to defining a person's but I'm not going to spend all weekend arguing over it though, it's too much of a tangent, besides whatever we think and want will not make a difference to Everton's future!

 

[Inner-city]

Do you think for one minute that most of the match going public want to be shunted to the game,
and when its finished shunted back out again. Get real.

I don't see Arsenal fans saying they are being shunted.

 

[Inner-city]

Changing subject slightly, what about this above the park end stand:

Building high and deep at the Park End was looked at. The structure would not be that big and the cost would prohibitive for the small gains. Everton have to get out soon as the safety certificate may be lost for the wooden stands as the safety regs are tightened up.

 

[Inner-city]

Thanks for the link, that would have been Everton's station for 55 years!

There was also Spellow on County Road, even nearer to EFC. The station is still there, complete with ticket hall building, with platforms partially intact:
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/spellow/index.shtml

The problem was that these were individual lines and slow steam trains, that is why they were discontinued in 1948, unlike the integrated Merseyrail, which merged all the lines in the 1970s creating one large urban electric mass-transit rail system - a smaller version of London's Underground. A network the clubs forget the city has. Anyone with a brain when designing a large venue would use the mass-transit network.

 

[Inner-city]

your not wrong it was supposed to be designed to take a further teir on top

It was not. It was built because the government paid most of the cost. The club went for money destroying the all around double-deck feature of the ground.

 

[anton66]

Everton have the biggest walk up support in the prem. Maybe I do not want to get mass transited on a train when I can walk.

 

[Inner-city]

First of all I don't actually drink, haven't been in an ale house for a long time. Secondly 'approaching' the council, which in reality was a very informal and tentative dip of the big toe in a very large pool to extend GP and needed Walton road widened which meant losing a chunk of the park by the playground, isn't the same as did try to get a part of the park about 20 years ago. Accept that this is not true for the love of all that is holy, please.

The FACT is, EFC approached the Council to build in the park. Others have suggested that between the existing GP ground and the park, Walton Lane is removed. The park railings taken down and EFC build over the road and on the Park End, not building on existing parkland. Then EFC is effectively a part of the park - like the Munich Olympic stadium, Hull City, etc. But revenues will be reduced for many years, something the club can't take.

But the problem of poor parking, poor rail access via Kirkdale, no direct mass-transit rail access, dowdy district full of terraced houses giving a bad impression for the club and the city and being a nuisance to the 1000s of local residents still remains. Many, many 1000s visit Anfield and Walton each year to watch football games. They go away with a poor impression of the city. That has to change, with the city needing to portray a top quality image as other major cities around Europe realised and acted upon. Getting the footy clubs out of these poor image districts is the way.

This the image many 1000s of outsiders leave Liverpool with:

Below: Right next to LFC. Nice image for the city eh? And that is one of the best bits

 

[magicjuan]

The FACT is, EFC approached the Council to build in the park. Others have suggested that between the existing GP ground and the park, Walton Lane is removed. The park railings taken down and EFC build over the road and on the Park End, not building on existing parkland. Then EFC is effectively a part of the park - like the Munich Olympic stadium, Hull City, etc. But revenues will be reduced for many years something they club can't take. But the problem of poor parking, poor rail access via Kirkdale, no direct mass-transit rail access, dowdy district full of terraced houses giving a bad impression for the club and the city and being a nuisance to the 1000s of local residents still remains. Many, many 1000s visit Anfield and Walton each year to watch football games. They go away with a poor impression of the city. That has to change, with the city needing to portray a top quality image as other major cities around Europe realised and acted upon. Getting the footy clubs out of these poor image districts is the way.

That is absolute nonsense, and would suggest you are working to an agenda. Why, at every opportunity, do you disparage this city? The majority who visit Walton are from the city itself, think of the walk up figures, they don't hop on a train or boat or plane, you don't show any knowledge of the customer base of Everton fc, tbh imho you don't appear to have any understanding whatsoever, which suggests you are either a railway fetishist or a wum. Either way, your 'vision' is patently bezerk and would serve no purpose other than giving you 'exciteable material' to ride around all day long. I'll call it quits here, can't contribute to another's fantasy, wouldn't be right. Try again with the truth, it may surprise you.

 

[Inner-city]

That is absolute nonsense, and would suggest you are working to an agenda. Why, at every opportunity, do you disparage this city?

The city has a poor image by outsiders. The surrounds of Walton and Anfield do no good for the city. Stating how it is and being objective and constructive is not disparaging. Not only that, suggesting improvements.

The majority who visit Walton are from the city itself,

Once again...many, many 1000s visit these two districts each year to attend football matches. When EFC & LFC are in Euro competitions there are many, many 1000s of foreign visitors. Most leave with a negative image of the city. We need the clubs in locations that portray a good image for the city. If you value your city and want it to progress, you would agree with this.

One third of EFC season ticket holders live in the Wirral, who need fast mass-transit access, which would also encourage more fans from the Wirral. EFC's support does not come from the surrounding terraced houses and little does. That ended about 1888.

 

[magicjuan]

The city has a poor image by outsiders. The surrounds of Walton and Anfield do no good for the city. Stating how it is and being objective and constructive is not disparaging. Not only that, suggesting improvements.



Once again...many, many 1000s visit these two districts each year to attend football matches. When EFC & LFC are in Euro competitions there are many, many 1000s of foreign visitors. Most leave with a negative image of the city. We need the clubs in locations that portray a good image for the city. If you value your city and want it to progress, you would agree with this.

One third of EFC season ticket holders live in the Wirral, who need fast mass-transit access. EFC's support does not come from the surrounding terraced houses and little does. That ended about 1888.

Indulge me one question, do you live on the Wirral? This has a huge dependence upon satisfying supporters from the Wirral (sic)

 

[Jeff Jones]

Building high and deep at the Park End was looked at. The structure would not be that big and the cost would prohibitive for the small gains. Everton have to get out soon as the safety certificate may be lost for the wooden stands as the safety regs are tightened up.

I can see positive outcomes in many of the proposals suggested over the years, but the common denominator in all
is in bold. And not just prohibitive. Far beyond the means of EFC.

That may change, one day, but I'm not confident.