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New manager

Lanolin said:
I mean, he got sacked right? Generally speaking that isn't seen as a sign that you're succeeding. I think someone like Mourinho is genuinely the worst possible type of appointment we could make. Yet another 'hollywood manager' who is out of touch with the way the game is going and is just here for a payday, who will lose his rag when we don't give him £150m to spend every season and blames the DoF for not giving him the players he wants. The point was that people call him a serial winner etc, but in recent years he hasn't been - he's won 1 trophy in 7 years, he hasn't been a serial winner for about 12 years.

It feels like people (not saying you) always say 'look at the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth, they're so well run why can't we be more like that' and then want us to do literally the total opposite of anything they would ever dream of.
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Trophies/Years
Everton = 1 in 30
Mourinho = 26 in 21

Don't really have a leg to stand on if you want to start going down that route. It's ok to quote EFC's history when it's convenient but not others' eh.
 
Simon Buttle said:
Problem is whoever gets suggested most fans just moan because they say the person doesn't know the club or the league, the usual bs mainly because our fans like 'safe' appointments imo hence the desire with some to get Moyes back, our fans don't generally seem to like change much.
Id love to us take a chance (in the same way we did with Moyes) on someone like Danny Rohl at Sheff Wed or Michael Carrick at Boro and really back them, or really make a strong move to try and get someone like Kjetil Knutsen from Bodo/Glimt. I want someone who is an ideas man, someone who thinks outside of the box, someone who is tactically aware and can improve players on the training ground.
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I really like Rohl. Not entirely convinced on Carrick yet, he's doing well but not that well for me but Rohl I think could be very good. I agree that it's that type of road we need to go down one way or another, some of the names linked (and the lapping it up reactions to them) are seriously depressing.
 
Lanolin said:
I mean, he got sacked right? Generally speaking that isn't seen as a sign that you're succeeding. I think someone like Mourinho is genuinely the worst possible type of appointment we could make. Yet another 'hollywood manager' who is out of touch with the way the game is going and is just here for a payday, who will lose his rag when we don't give him £150m to spend every season and blames the DoF for not giving him the players he wants. The point was that people call him a serial winner etc, but in recent years he hasn't been - he's won 1 trophy in 7 years, he hasn't been a serial winner for about 12 years.

It feels like people (not saying you) always say 'look at the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth, they're so well run why can't we be more like that' and then want us to do literally the total opposite of anything they would ever dream of.
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I think its fair to say that Mourinho has more winning mentality in his little finger than Dyche and his entire staff will ever have... even now.
 
Gwladys St. Glory said:
Trophies/Years
Everton = 1 in 30
Mourinho = 26 in 21

Don't really have a leg to stand on if you want to start going down that route. It's ok to quote EFC's history when it's convenient but not others' eh.
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Down what route? This doesn't make any sense or have any relation to the point being made. Danny Simpson's won more Premier Leagues than us but I don't want us to sign him.
 

Simon Buttle said:
Robins is actually very good tbh and his teams always play decent football but Championship is probably his level tbh. Be interesting to see what happens at Stoke though as they have a few tidy players but are the perennial basket case club and considering they have more money than half the clubs in the PL do, they really should be playing in the top flight.
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Röhl is a promising manager actually. Always some risk, you can have the Maresca or Arteta luck. Stoke took the assistant manager of Corberan it didn't work out for them. Paul Clement was of Ancelotti, did terrible as a head coach.
 
Lanolin said:
I really like Rohl. Not entirely convinced on Carrick yet, he's doing well but not that well for me but Rohl I think could be very good. I agree that it's that type of road we need to go down one way or another, some of the names linked (and the lapping it up reactions to them) are seriously depressing.
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Agree, the last time we did well from a manager was by taking a risk on Moyes, I think we should do it again although Id rather we were doing it in the summer. Also I agree some of the names atm are not enticing, the likes of Jose and Moyes are not my idea of a step forward but I do see why others want them.
 

The situation that we find ourselves in means beggars can’t be choosers, plus I believe anyone but dyche will get more out of the squad.

If our current manager had any semblance of quality about him, we would be comfortably mid table and he could happily see out his contract and bugger off in the summer with our thanks for a job well done, and TFG would have the luxury of time to be choosers, not beggars.

He’s dumped on that this season, hence we are where we are and the likes of Jose have entered the chat.

We will get behind whoever comes in, we got behind Dyche, Frank, even tapas tits.

It’s just disappointing that we’re here again with dyche, he did ok last season and after the points deduction - he’s been abysmal this season, it’s time to go or we won’t stay up.
 
Lanolin said:
I think it's fair to say that 'he's better than Dyche' shouldn't be all we're looking for in a manager.
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This is true... but 'better than Dyche' is a fairly extensive list right now.

He's not just better than Dyche, he's on another planet than Dyche. Granted, prime Mourinho was a few years back now, but prime Mourinho wouldn't even be in the conversation for our managers job. He's a serial winner, would attract players and would move us up the league. He also cant stand the RS, so he's already more suitable than Dyche before he's stepped foot in the gaff!
 
Lanolin said:
I mean, he got sacked right? Generally speaking that isn't seen as a sign that you're succeeding. I think someone like Mourinho is genuinely the worst possible type of appointment we could make. Yet another 'hollywood manager' who is out of touch with the way the game is going and is just here for a payday, who will lose his rag when we don't give him £150m to spend every season and blames the DoF for not giving him the players he wants. The point was that people call him a serial winner etc, but in recent years he hasn't been - he's won 1 trophy in 7 years, he hasn't been a serial winner for about 12 years.

It feels like people (not saying you) always say 'look at the likes of Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth, they're so well run why can't we be more like that' and then want us to do literally the total opposite of anything they would ever dream of.
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i think at this point we would take 1 trophy in 7 years
 

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