New manager

The Guardian also likes to hedge its bets on the West Ham Lopetegui/Potter story...

"Potter, who also has admirers at Everton..."

I love the way a random club is inserted into a story that has absolutely nothing at all to do with it...
But have they tied Liverpool to it somehow? That's my favourite random mention. Might be an article about 1970 Brazil and it'd still somehow mention the rats.

Like Philomena Cunk and "Pump up the jam", in a way, but that is obvious satire.
 

We see things differently.
11 years of dour , dithering Davey was enough for me.
He and Kenwright created the small club mentality that plagues us today.
He should have been dismissed after 5 seasons .
If the best the new owners could do is appoint this mediocre relic then they aren’t any better than those who preceded them.
Everton were a great club once , to even hope to recover a semblance of that status we need to take a risk and appoint bold, talented managers .
Tired of supporting a club that is ruled by fear , and Moyes is not for me .
Of the last 34 years nearly all of our best seasons and best football was played under Moyes and nearly all of our best players were signed by him. The club might literally not exist but for him. The ingratitude and lack of perspective is frankly astonishing.
 
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Some interesting names here.

Fair play to the guy for putting that together.
I just don't know about the risk involved.

People will point to Iraola at Bournemouth but they were not in an acute crisis when he was appointed. They were in a stable position and on a upward curve by their standards with money available from sales.

I just don't think it's time to gamble unless the candidate had at least a record of some relative achievement at more than one club. We could appoint one of these candidates and get another Jesse Marsh. I certainly wouldn't be looking at anyone whose experience is confined to the Norwegian league.

Conceicao would have been an appointment that I would have been in favour of. Arrascete from that list looks very promising but I would still be hesitant.

The field would be far more open if we could appoint in the summer but we don't have that luxury now. There is no guarantee with anyone but things could get very ugly if an unknown was chosen and the spiral continued.

I don't envy TFG their task.
 
These would be ideal, I think

What would be ideal about Igor Tudor?

What would be ideal about any of them? The only person who strikingly appeals to me is the Mallorca head coach.

Everyone hated Koeman for loving Golf, the comments literally say Fischer prefers to spend his time fishing (unless it's a play on his name - in which case I've been duped).

Schmidt is a loser. No titles at PSV, sacked by Benfica & Leverkusen.

Perfect manager for us would have been Hütter when we appointed Lampard, now he's doing a belting job at Monaco.
 
The small club mentality arrived at Everton long before Moyes.

Before he arrived we’d just finished 12th,, 13th, 17th,15th, 6th, 15th, 17th, 14th, 13th, 16th and were heading for relegation.

The idea we were seen as some great force is laughable. We were as much of a joke then as we are now, Moyes put some pride back.

I get people not wanting him back btw, but let’s not re-write history.

My brother used to say our small club mentality started when we sold Alan Ball. Although we were still comfortably one of the biggest and wealthiest clubs in the league then, it was as if that started the process of being resigned to playing second fiddle to our neighbours. The mid 80s were just an anomaly, a fluke, or a final hurrah for a once proud institution, that still had some stock left in it... The premier era exposed the pretence, as the false dawns and managed decline continued, whilst others built for the future. We got left behind. Essentially, we got carpet-bagged by a complete fraud who was extremely fortunate to get a manager who could build a team out of the proceeds of having to sell the best player of his generation, working to a zero net budget for a decade. Even a dyed-in-the-wool Evertonian preferred to leave Everton..... the definition of when small club "mentality" met small club "reality" head on. Imagine that happening at any point before the 70s?

We dreamt small and achieved small..... with some aplomb. Hopefully it isn't too late and things can start to change soon.... but we have to stay in this league first!
 

We see things differently.
11 years of dour , dithering Davey was enough for me.
He and Kenwright created the small club mentality that plagues us today.
He should have been dismissed after 5 seasons .
If the best the new owners could do is appoint this mediocre relic then they aren’t any better than those who preceded them.
Everton were a great club once , to even hope to recover a semblance of that status we need to take a risk and appoint bold, talented managers .
Tired of supporting a club that is ruled by fear , and Moyes is not for me .
Understand that you want the 80s back.

A question for Everton fans: Would you rather have 90s in the league, more or less consistent bottom half, but one trophy.

Or more or less consistent top half like under Moyes in the league, but no trophies.
 
Be refreshing to see a manager come in who's capable of playing a 3-5-2 system. Or a 3-2-2-1-2, with wing backs, 2 holding mids, a creative number 10 and two forwards.

Obviously this current crop might not be capable of it, but come the summer, we really need to adapt to a modern way of playing football and recruitment.

Imagine moving into our new home with new owners, a new beginning but playing the same ugly way we've been playing for years. Not sure who the best man to take over is, but come on , bring us someone in who can put the magic and passion back into being a Evertonian.
 
Understand that you want the 80s back.

A question for Everton fans: Would you rather have 90s in the league, more or less consistent bottom half, but one trophy.

Or more or less consistent top half like under Moyes in the league, but no trophies.
A trophy please. No one should ever celebrate finishing top half in the league
 
Relegated Sunderland, sacked after a few months in sociedad, took the champions to 7th.
For, you know, balance

Took over Sunderland, was lied to about the finances hed recive then they sold the entire defence out from underneath him. His best players available was a 23 year old pickford, a 34 year old defoe and a 34 year old lescott. No one was keeping Sunderland up that year.

Sociedad... yeah he soiled the bed there like.

Really going to use united as a example :lol: youre streaching there arent you? Everyone agrees that moyes took over a poisoned chalice with that one. The team was finished, look at the age of the squad it was a miracle that one of the greatest managers of all time won the league with them.

De gea was 23 and still erratic, vidic was 33, rio was 35, evra was 33, gigs was 40, fletcher was 30, RVP was 31 the entire spine of the team was knackered.
Especially with rvp missing over 100 days of the season with injuries.

For, you know, context
 
What would be ideal about Igor Tudor?

What would be ideal about any of them? The only person who strikingly appeals to me is the Mallorca head coach.

Everyone hated Koeman for loving Golf, the comments literally say Fischer prefers to spend his time fishing (unless it's a play on his name - in which case I've been duped).

Schmidt is a loser. No titles at PSV, sacked by Benfica & Leverkusen.

Perfect manager for us would have been Hütter when we appointed Lampard, now he's doing a belting job at Monaco.
Did we? I didn't even knew he played golf. What a weird thing for someone to get upset about 🤷‍♂️
 

My brother used to say our small club mentality started when we sold Alan Ball. Although we were still comfortably one of the biggest and wealthiest clubs in the league then, it was as if that started the process of being resigned to playing second fiddle to our neighbours. The mid 80s were just an anomaly, a fluke, or a final hurrah for a once proud institution, that still had some stock left in it... The premier era exposed the pretence, as the false dawns and managed decline continued, whilst others built for the future. We got left behind. Essentially, we got carpet-bagged by a complete fraud who was extremely fortunate to get a manager who could build a team out of the proceeds of having to sell the best player of his generation, working to a zero net budget for a decade. Even a dyed-in-the-wool Evertonian preferred to leave Everton..... the definition of when small club "mentality" met small club "reality" head on. Imagine that happening at any point before the 70s?

We dreamt small and achieved small..... with some aplomb. Hopefully it isn't too late and things can start to change soon.... but we have to stay in this league first!

Spot on Tom, the only thing I have against Moyes is he kept Kenwright in power, with being so astute in the transfer market. Without Moyes the fans would have turned on Bill a lot earlier.
 
Realistically, the next manager has to be somebody whose success is built on keeping clean sheets but can actually coach a team that knows how to counter attack.

Potter would be an unbelievably stupid appointment for us in the state we're in. You can't go from Dycheball to 70% possession between now and the end of the season, we'd be relegated by March.

I don't know who is out there who fits the bill – I think Glasner at Palace plays the kind of football we need to be aiming for in the short term, but the fanbase needs somebody less passive on the touchline to get Goodison properly snarling again.
 
How utterly pathetic and embarrassing would it be to have Moyes crawling back here. Wind it in, there’s loads of better managers out there, just have to hope this ownership group actually know about football unlike Moshiri…

Who?

Who has a history of taking on relegation fighting teams, progressing them on to concistent European contenders and has won a European cup in the PL?

Or we just going to get some random kid from Europe whos only capable of a bottom half finish but plays pretty football.

But hey, all the football hipsters spaff off over him so he must be good
 
Took over Sunderland, was lied to about the finances hed recive then they sold the entire defence out from underneath him. His best players available was a 23 year old pickford, a 34 year old defoe and a 34 year old lescott. No one was keeping Sunderland up that year.

Sociedad... yeah he soiled the bed there like.

Really going to use united as a example :lol: youre streaching there arent you? Everyone agrees that moyes took over a poisoned chalice with that one. The team was finished, look at the age of the squad it was a miracle that one of the greatest managers of all time won the league with them.

De gea was 23 and still erratic, vidic was 33, rio was 35, evra was 33, gigs was 40, fletcher was 30, RVP was 31 the entire spine of the team was knackered.
Especially with rvp missing over 100 days of the season with injuries.

For, you know, context
Very few managers are successful everywhere they go. They nearly always have limited time and resources and the game is extremely competitive. Moyes did very well at Preston, exceptionally well (bar not winning a trophy at Everton), and has done a good job at West Ham on two different occasions. He’s a known quantity and an excellent spotter of talent. If he came as a short term solution and stabilised us before we can move to a more progressive younger coach then that wouldn’t be a bad outcome.
 

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