New manager


Bluewolf said:
Who?

Who has a history of taking on relegation fighting teams, progressing them on to concistent European contenders and has won a European cup in the PL?

Or we just going to get some random kid from Europe whos only capable of a bottom half finish but plays pretty football.

But hey, all the football hipsters spaff off over him so he must be good
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My thoughts exactly, itā€™s the same mentality that prefers us to sign unproven foreign players over experienced if limited premier league players.
 
mahermi1 said:
Spot on Tom, the only thing I have against Moyes is he kept Kenwright in power, with being so astute in the transfer market. Without Moyes the fans would have turned on Bill a lot earlier.
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Couldn't agree more. Instead, he dined out on Moyes' relative achievements, which were all despite Kenwright and certainly not because of him. As proven by what happened not long after he left.... within 18months the team he built went into decline and managers came and went in rapid order. Then moreso after Moshiri's entire war chest was blown mainly on crap players. The damage had already long been done, and was papered over by Moyes achievements and false anecdotes about the Boy's pen.
 
Bluewolf said:
Took over Sunderland, was lied to about the finances hed recive then they sold the entire defence out from underneath him. His best players available was a 23 year old pickford, a 34 year old defoe and a 34 year old lescott. No one was keeping Sunderland up that year.

Sociedad... yeah he soiled the bed there like.

Really going to use united as a example :lol: youre streaching there arent you? Everyone agrees that moyes took over a poisoned chalice with that one. The team was finished, look at the age of the squad it was a miracle that one of the greatest managers of all time won the league with them.

De gea was 23 and still erratic, vidic was 33, rio was 35, evra was 33, gigs was 40, fletcher was 30, RVP was 31 the entire spine of the team was knackered.
Especially with rvp missing over 100 days of the season with injuries.

For, you know, context
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Rio was on some podcast few weeks back talking about moyes on his first few days at utd
Moyes turned round to rio and said wow this is a big club rio new from that moment the job was to big for moyes
 

barneygumble said:
What would be ideal about Igor Tudor?

What would be ideal about any of them? The only person who strikingly appeals to me is the Mallorca head coach.

Everyone hated Koeman for loving Golf, the comments literally say Fischer prefers to spend his time fishing (unless it's a play on his name - in which case I've been duped).

Schmidt is a loser. No titles at PSV, sacked by Benfica & Leverkusen.

Perfect manager for us would have been HĆ¼tter when we appointed Lampard, now he's doing a belting job at Monaco.
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HĆ¼tter just extended at Monaco.

Fischer got a promoted team into Europe and CL with Dycheball.
 
Kevsleftpeg said:
My thoughts exactly, itā€™s the same mentality that prefers us to sign unproven foreign players over experienced if limited premier league players.
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Do you understand why that is though? All the best players and managers who have come into this league have by and large come from abroad with zero PL experience previously. We have done the PL experience thing to death and it has achieved nothing for us.
 

Simon Buttle said:
Do you understand why that is though? All the best players and managers who have come into this league have by and large come from abroad with zero PL experience previously. We have done the PL experience thing to death and it has achieved nothing for us.
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I think you are missing the point. Which is that people assume unknown quantities are always better than known quantities. People do the same with youth team players. They want them to play just on the off chance they might be better than a proven (if mediocre) first team player.
 
Berlin Blue said:
Wouldnā€™t go as far as Dycheball, but definitely very similar style of play to Moyes.
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Ok, I see u are from Berlin, Hertha or Union supporter? He did impressive work there, but probably missing development of the playstyle and bad transfers like Gosens and Bonucci cost him the success. But I know they were top with long balls, had low possession, 2nd balls won, set pieces very good, very good defense.

Also, they outperformed every stat in the offensive area.
 
Kevsleftpeg said:
I think you are missing the point. Which is that people assume unknown quantities are always better than known quantities. People do the same with youth team players. They want them to play just on the off chance they might be better than a proven (if mediocre) first team player.
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I'm not missing the point at all, how many times have we bought big club cast offs just because of who they played for without actually assessing if they fit into the team. It all comes down to recruitment and ours is rubbish so we always take the easy option and its made ten times worse when (atm) you have a guy like Dyche who clearly does minimal coaching/development work with players.
 
Connor said:
Koeman delayed taking the job at first due to a golfing holiday - go look at his first interview, it's on his terms because of that

He routinely left Finch Farm before everyone else to go play golf

An arrogant little man
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I don't doubt you. I do remember people getting upset because he had red baubles on his christmas tree. That was an even more weird thing for people to get upset about šŸ˜‚
 

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