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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

The Fish said:
Of course it's peripheral to them, I don't think anybody is anticipating Mohammed Bin Salman to be paying us much notice. Not like he's going to be watching from the stands or owt. I don't think the investment arm of the Saudi Royal family would buy a Premier League club for it to muddle around midtable with little investment. They'll want it to progress, they'll want something to show off. That won't come without consideration, or investment.
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How does it feel to have your entire club that you’ve supported your whole life go from being a PR and advertising wing for a crappy sports shop chain to a PR and advertising wing designed to detract from a family who kill absolutely tons of their own people a year and deny their subjects of some of the most basic human rights in order to protect some black stuff that comes out of the sand?
 
mikeh72 said:
I'm "banging on about it 6 years later" because this conversation is specifically about Newcastle fans' love-in with Liverpool fans you confused man?

Do you often sing Spurs songs at Arsenal fans mate? Did you sing Forever Blowing Bubbles at Millwall fans when you were in the Coca Cola Championship?
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We tend to sing generic cockney songs at London clubs, tend to send generic football opposition songs at generic football opposition. You got YNWA because Everton fans get riled by it. I'm glad to say the tendency to sing "In your Liverpool Slums" is slowly dying a death, so you get YNWA.
 
killenefc said:
How does it feel to have your entire club that you’ve supported your whole life go from being a PR and advertising wing for a crappy sports shop chain to a PR and advertising wing designed to detract from a family who kill absolutely tons of their own people a year and deny their subjects of some of the most basic human rights in order to protect some black stuff that comes out of the sand?
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Not great. I wish we'd been bought by one of those altruistic billionaires.
 

The Fish said:
We tend to sing generic cockney songs at London clubs, tend to send generic football opposition songs at generic football opposition. You got YNWA because Everton fans get riled by it. I'm glad to say the tendency to sing "In your Liverpool Slums" is slowly dying a death, so you get YNWA.
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Hahahahahaha what? Your fans are a bunch of odd, odd fat disgusting slobs.
 
The Fish said:
We tend to sing generic cockney songs at London clubs, tend to send generic football opposition songs at generic football opposition. You got YNWA because Everton fans get riled by it. I'm glad to say the tendency to sing "In your Liverpool Slums" is slowly dying a death, so you get YNWA.
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You dont sing anything at Goodison cos you only bring 5 fans.
 
killenefc said:
I’d have serious problems supporting and paying money to the club if it was me.

Not that Newcastle is a club, it’s a front for Mike Ashley and it’s a front for the systematic murderers.
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Don't blame you, totally understand that point of view and good friends have similar reservations.

You're right, Ashley turned us into a massive tacky advertising space for his sports tat shop, and the Saudis are wanting to use us to present a rosier picture of their regime to the wider world. Couldn't get shot of Ashley, can't stop the Saudis.
 
The Fish said:
Of course it's peripheral to them, I don't think anybody is anticipating Mohammed Bin Salman to be paying us much notice. Not like he's going to be watching from the stands or owt. I don't think the investment arm of the Saudi Royal family would buy a Premier League club for it to muddle around midtable with little investment. They'll want it to progress, they'll want something to show off. That won't come without consideration, or investment.
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Why wouldn't they? Massive exposure, a key asset, growth in value, regular TV money etc. Its very plausible they are happy to hold an asset that remains in the PL. In honesty remaining in the PL is far more critical than competing to win trophies.

The idea they want something to show off is confirmation bias in your part. Most investments are in existence to show off. They serve a function as part of a portfolio. I'd also say, if he wants this, he will be in the stands, milking the adulation making it a priority.

I'm not saying he will be happy just to be a background owner of a PL team, but it's certainly not a position without credence, or if we are looking at the evidence we have one that seems to fit the pattern of behaviour.

The alternative seems to be a Geordie who claims hes sourced, but also thinks oils going back to normal (it's just collapsed to 13$) and that a minority 10% shareholder is going to pump a load of money in. Forgive me, but that person is either completely wrong, or completely misinformed.
 

catcherintherye said:
Why wouldn't they? Massive exposure, a key asset, growth in value, regular TV money etc. Its very plausible they are happy to hold an asset that remains in the PL. In honesty remaining in the PL is far more critical than competing to win trophies.

The idea they want something to show off is confirmation bias in your part. Most investments are in existence to show off. They serve a function as part of a portfolio. I'd also say, if he wants this, he will be in the stands, milking the adulation making it a priority.

I'm not saying he will be happy just to be a background owner of a PL team, but it's certainly not a position without credence, or if we are looking at the evidence we have one that seems to fit the pattern of behaviour.

The alternative seems to be a Geordie who claims hes sourced, but also thinks oils going back to normal (it's just collapsed to 13$) and that a minority 10% shareholder is going to pump a load of money in. Forgive me, but that person is either completely wrong, or completely misinformed.
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I think there may be confirmation bias on both sides. Your position appears to be that the Saudis will buy the club, then do little with it, certainly not invest to make us competitive for European spots or even CL. My position is that I can't imagine they'd bother investing in a PL club to simply tread water.

Whoever the Geordie stating those things, he is not the only alternative.
 
The Fish said:
I think there may be confirmation bias on both sides. Your position appears to be that the Saudis will buy the club, then do little with it, certainly not invest to make us competitive for European spots or even CL. My position is that I can't imagine they'd bother investing in a PL club to simply tread water.

Whoever the Geordie stating those things, he is not the only alternative.
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My point is that there is a world where an investor buys into a club as an investment vehicle, as opposed to pump money in. Both are possibilities.
 
mikeh72 said:
What, no I wouldn’t, why would I do that? I can assure you I’ve never ever sung Blue Moon at United fans, or pro-Arsenal songs at Spurs fans. Genuinely, why would you do that?
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The Fish said:
Because it winds people up. As it clearly did to you.
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I'm with mikeh72 here, why would we sing a Sunderland song? Not something we do.

Sing loads of Everton songs yeah, but not songs of other clubs.
 

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