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Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

Mutzo Nutzo said:
Not sure how I feel about this ruling. It’s okay for City to do it through Emirates but not Newcastle?

We are also at it / although Uncle Uz is not “officially” our owner, therefore we are flying under the radar.

Need a bit of parity here. If Newcastle can’t do it then neither can Man City
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Always comes down to precedent really and the first club to try and bend rules will always get away with it before everyone else wises up.

You could look at the Watford incident with how they loaned about 20 players which sparked a rule change which meant that Wolves who had a similar access to a group of players that other championship clubs couldn't get actually had to buy a lot of their players rather than loaning them.

I don't think anyone could have envisaged early on when City were bought the lengths they would go to effectively defraud financial fair play, the only reason a lot of it has come out is because their information was hacked.

It would be interesting to see if once the rule is changed permanently whether City will be forced to change sponsors.
 
Going forward in football this is great news, it's been in the works for a while according to a PL CEO.

Impacts Man City as well, If only UEFA had the backbone to do the same thing, but sadly cannot because the PSG chairman amazingly is on the board at UEFA.

Those poor Geordies crying right now all over the Twitterverse.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Isn't Moshiri linked to USM? So what does that do to us re naming rights...or have we already signed a contract and we are basically saying starting from now?
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Thats my thinking as well - hopefully we already have a naming rights deal in place I imagine we would considering the financing for the stadium would be near enough concluded at this stage.

I imagine Newcastle could take the PL to court and win mind it is anti competitive.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
Thats my thinking as well - hopefully we already have a naming rights deal in place I imagine we would considering the financing for the stadium would be near enough concluded at this stage.

I imagine Newcastle could take the PL to court and win mind it is anti competitive.
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Leicester's King Power will need to go, Aston Villa have a couple of owner linked deals as well.

Any deals they sign have to market value from now on as well, that will be to stop wealthy owner's subsidising the deals to over inflate them.
 
EverTheOptimist said:
Leicester's King Power will need to go, Aston Villa have a couple of owner linked deals as well.

Any deals they sign have to market value from now on as well, that will be to stop wealthy owner's subsidising the deals to over inflate them.
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Well it depends on what is market value.

£20-30 million on a world class stadium like BMD you could argue is there and thereabouts value.

£100 million isn't which is what this attempts to stop (although I think it'll be taken to court and chucked out).

Leicesters deal is quite small tbh I doubt it'll have much effect on them.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Well it depends on what is market value.

£20-30 million on a world class stadium like BMD you could argue is there and thereabouts value.

£100 million isn't which is what this attempts to stop (although I think it'll be taken to court and chucked out).

Leicesters deal is quite small tbh I doubt it'll have much effect on them.
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BMD will be related to market value of i'm guessing what Arsenal's deal which is around that figure, I think you are right there about King Power, Leicester commercial revenues are not big, Aston Villa's owner deals look dodgy with the outlay they have had the last 2-3 seasons, Villa voted it in which is interesting.

Etihad is £120 million a year, for Stadium, shirt and training ground, that must put the stadium at around £50 million a year right there which is way above market value, even the biggest club in the world Real Madrid couldn't find a naming rights deal for the refurbished Bernabeu at the price they wanted and i bet that was lower than £50 million a year, they have abolished plans not to proceed with naming rights now.
 
EverTheOptimist said:
BMD will be related to market value of i'm guessing what Arsenal's deal which is around that figure, I think you are right there about King Power, Leicester commercial revenues are not big, Aston Villa's owner deals look dodgy with the outlay they have had the last 2-3 seasons, Villa voted it in which is interesting.

Etihad is £120 million a year, for Stadium, shirt and training ground, that must put the stadium at around £50 million a year right there which is way above market value, even the biggest club in the world LIVERPOOL couldn't find a naming rights deal for the refurbished ANALFIELD at the price they wanted and i bet that was lower than £50 million a year, they have abolished plans not to proceed with naming rights now.
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Fixed it for ya!
 
EverTheOptimist said:
BMD will be related to market value of i'm guessing what Arsenal's deal which is around that figure, I think you are right there about King Power, Leicester commercial revenues are not big, Aston Villa's owner deals look dodgy with the outlay they have had the last 2-3 seasons, Villa voted it in which is interesting.

Etihad is £120 million a year, for Stadium, shirt and training ground, that must put the stadium at around £50 million a year right there which is way above market value, even the biggest club in the world Real Madrid couldn't find a naming rights deal for the refurbished Bernabeu at the price they wanted and i bet that was lower than £50 million a year, they have abolished plans not to proceed with naming rights now.
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Most clubs will be fine - its not in UEFA or PL benefit to take every team to court over deals a few million here or there over a "market value" thats difficult to actually quantify. Man City could argue sponsers dont want to pay big to sponser a LA Liga team over a PL one etc or that their finance team are better at finalising deals etc than Reals.

Ultimately this is to try stop the Saudi's from throwing daft money around, its not worth the media uproar or costly legal battles to be taking Everton or Leicester to court over stadium naming rights deals particularly when EFC have already been approved for the £30 million naming rights option from USM last season.

I suspect thats roughly what we'll announce yearly is the deal once they finalise the stadium financing.
 

EverTheOptimist said:
Going forward in football this is great news, it's been in the works for a while according to a PL CEO.

Impacts Man City as well, If only UEFA had the backbone to do the same thing, but sadly cannot because the PSG chairman amazingly is on the board at UEFA.

Those poor Geordies crying right now all over the Twitterverse.
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Backbone? if they did, you and the other 5 scab clubs would be on your ass now
 

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