Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

[Euan Henderson]

I honestly consider the possibility that I’d prefer Big Red to win the title over them if it was a straight two-way fight. Absolute reptiles they are.

That’s a big shout Mike.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Never nice to hear of a bad injury. Very good player Trippier. Made a huge difference to them and will be a big miss.

I hope he broke his foot scoring against us.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I honestly consider the possibility that I’d prefer Big Red to win the title over them if it was a straight two-way fight. Absolute reptiles they are.

I’m in 2 minds about this. They would embarrass themselves on a global stage and probably smash up their city again which would be fun to see.

 

[YorkieG]

Agreed and proven by his head patting sound lad persona he tries to give on here before returning to his forum saying he hopes we get pumped.

Wait, what, did you think I was an Everton fan or something? Or a neutral, or what? All I've ever discussed on here is Newcastle; in fact this thread must account for 99% of my posts.

Of course I wanted Newcastle to beat Everton; I just wasn't going to give it big licks on here before the game, or come gloating after we won (I was only provoked yesterday when someone came swinging for Big Joe!)

Sorry if you're feeling jilted, I thought there was a general understanding that fans wanted their teams to beat other teams.

 

[wandyr79]

Congrats on your 'gotcha', mind. Would've been impressive had I not been remotely secretive or mentioned our forum on multiple occasions...

Ps, genuine question, who's the blokey in your avatar? Is it Dunc from an old FIFA or something?

Genuine question, how old are you?

Fine, come on an Everton forum, debate with us, disagree with us but it is extremely childish to go running back to your friends snitching just because a few of us don't like your team. Whether you have attempted to hide it or not, it is extremely pathetic and childish.

 

[4 Eyes Better Than 2]

Genuine question, how old are you?

Fine, come on an Everton forum, debate with us, disagree with us but it is extremely childish to go running back to your friends snitching just because all of us don't like your team. Whether you have attempted to hide it or not, it is extremely pathetic and childish.

fixed

 

[YorkieG]

Genuine question, how old are you?

Fine, come on an Everton forum, debate with us, disagree with us but it is extremely childish to go running back to your friends snitching just because a few of us don't like your team. Whether you have attempted to hide it or not, it is extremely pathetic and childish.

I come for the craic and cos I like to see the view from the other side of the fence, and I've never had a problem with Everton. Nor do I have a problem with yous disliking Newcastle or Newcastle fans; but will admit to being surprised at the level of hate, seeing as there's no actual rivalry between our two clubs beyond the fact that we share a division (atm). Some of yous - like @JimmyJeffers - have explained, to some extent, your reasons (ie the Saudi stuff), and that's fair enough. I'm not gonna argue against that too strongly cos I certainly don't want to be misconstrued as going into bat for Saudi Arabia. I think as poorly as you do about the tea-towel wearing mouthbreathers waving £5 notes and bus tickets at Sky cameras.

As for 'snitching'; there was an existing discussion in our pre-match thread about the levels of hate towards NUFC on GOT; and I gave my take on it, plus an example. That's all. The other thing I've supposedly been 'rumbled' on was me talking about how we're some sort of benchmark for bad fans. But I've talked about that on this forum as well:

Fwiw I don't think the fans at ever to blame for horrendous decisions made by a select few individuals at a football club.

But why is it that Geordies are some kind of benchmark for fan discontent? Surely there are better examples? The vast, vast majority of our matchgoing support spent years gratefully swallowing whatever feces Ashley fed them without a hint of revolt or militance. 'Toon Toon Black and White Army!', 'you fat Cockney [Poor language removed]!' sit on our hands, another defeat at the hands of Pardew/McClaren/Bruce, go home, forget about it till next Saturday, rinse and repeat.

I've actually been griefed by fellow fans for trying to get them to act like whatever it is you see them as. For years the support was incredibly passive but for the SackPardew campaign - which came after a good couple of years of the team regressing under him - and a few creative flags photographed outside the ground during the Bruce days. (Not to take anything away from the absolute diamonds who did try and do something for the greater good of the club).

Meanwhile you've got Boro fans chucking season tickets at dugouts, Villa fans chucking cabbages on the pitch, West Ham fans protesting by the thousand, Blackpool boycotting the stadium, Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out, etc etc. The list goes on and on; there surely isn't a club out there whose fans haven't called for the manager's head at some point, etc? So what's with the Newcastle obsession? Genuine question

 

[MikeH72]

Wait, what, did you think I was an Everton fan or something? Or a neutral, or what? All I've ever discussed on here is Newcastle; in fact this thread must account for 99% of my posts.

Of course I wanted Newcastle to beat Everton; I just wasn't going to give it big licks on here before the game, or come gloating after we won (I was only provoked yesterday when someone came swinging for Big Joe!)

Sorry if you're feeling jilted, I thought there was a general understanding that fans wanted their teams to beat other teams.

Rafael’s a fat pig mate.

 

[wandyr79]

I come for the craic and cos I like to see the view from the other side of the fence, and I've never had a problem with Everton. Nor do I have a problem with yous disliking Newcastle or Newcastle fans; but will admit to being surprised at the level of hate, seeing as there's no actual rivalry between our two clubs beyond the fact that we share a division (atm). Some of yous - like @JimmyJeffers - have explained, to some extent, your reasons (ie the Saudi stuff), and that's fair enough. I'm not gonna argue against that too strongly cos I certainly don't want to be misconstrued as going into bat for Saudi Arabia. I think as poorly as you do about the tea-towel wearing mouthbreathers waving £5 notes and bus tickets at Sky cameras.

As for 'snitching'; there was an existing discussion in our pre-match thread about the levels of hate towards NUFC on GOT; and I gave my take on it, plus an example. That's all. The other thing I've supposedly been 'rumbled' on was me talking about how we're some sort of benchmark for bad fans. But I've talked about that on this forum as well:

A reasoned reply, so fair play.

I don't hate Newcastle, but I do actually see you very much like the RS.

The Geordies, I have known, have always been the same, sound people but as soon as you even dare to mention the word 'football' they became raving lunatics. Just like the RS, there seems to be a set way of arguing, they have their constant mantra of 6 times when it is mostly irrelevant to the argument and your lot have attendance figures and how this means you are a massive club who demand respect.

If you are truly not like that then that is OK but I have an inkling that you would not be far from the rabbit hole that is is football delusion

 

[Alan Whittle]

I'm not gonna argue against that too strongly cos I want as much money from them as possible. I certainly don't want to be misconstrued as not going into bat for Saudi Arabia cos that’s where all the money comes from.

Fixed that for you mate.

 

[YorkieG]

A reasoned reply, so fair play.

I don't hate Newcastle, but I do actually see you very much like the RS.

The Geordies, I have known, have always been the same, sound people but as soon as you even dare to mention the word 'football' they became raving lunatics. Just like the RS, there seems to be a set way of arguing, they have their constant mantra of 6 times when it is mostly irrelevant to the argument and your lot have attendance figures and how this means you are a massive club who demand respect.

If you are truly not like that then that is OK but I have an inkling that you would not be far from the rabbit hole that is is football delusion

I wouldn't even know how to define a 'big club'; I find it's usually a made-up term perpetuated by fans of clubs who aren't in the running for anything any more to make themselves feel better. So that's most of us outside of the ESL chums. I guess we're all big clubs.

Does 'big' = big attendances? Or does 'big' = lots of success? If the latter, how recent does the success have to be for a club to still be 'big'? Imagine trying to compare the 'bigness' of Newcastle and Sunderland, for example, if you're basing it on silverware. We last won a trophy in 1969 and they last won a trophy in 1973. By that metric we're both tiny. If 'big' is defined by the division you are presently in, then obviously we're currently far bigger.

 

[stony]

A reasoned reply, so fair play.

I don't hate Newcastle, but I do actually see you very much like the RS.

The Geordies, I have known, have always been the same, sound people but as soon as you even dare to mention the word 'football' they became raving lunatics. Just like the RS, there seems to be a set way of arguing, they have their constant mantra of 6 times when it is mostly irrelevant to the argument and your lot have attendance figures and how this means you are a massive club who demand respect.

If you are truly not like that then that is OK but I have an inkling that you would not be far from the rabbit hole that is is football delusion

Newcastle have loads of fans and City have none is the accepted mantra of most fans younger than around 30. Yet I remember Newcastle struggling to get 16K until John Hall got the chequebook out and brought Keegan in. In contrast we were averaging almost 30K in the third tier.

 

[YorkieG]

Newcastle have loads of fans and City have none is the accepted mantra of most fans younger than around 30. Yet I remember Newcastle struggling to get 16K until John Hall got the chequebook out and brought Keegan in. In contrast we were averaging almost 30K in the third tier.

Yeah. Our average attendances through the 60s and 70s were generally between 32-37k, but that fell and fell during the 80s under the McKeag stewardship, until a nadir around 1991 when the average was 16k. This was still an outlier though. Since then it's basically just gone up in line with the stadium expansion, the odd dip aside (Championship season 1 + Steve Bruce year 1).

Disclaimer: not a contribution to the 'big club' debate.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Wait, what, did you think I was an Everton fan or something? Or a neutral, or what? All I've ever discussed on here is Newcastle; in fact this thread must account for 99% of my posts.

Of course I wanted Newcastle to beat Everton; I just wasn't going to give it big licks on here before the game, or come gloating after we won (I was only provoked yesterday when someone came swinging for Big Joe!)

Sorry if you're feeling jilted, I thought there was a general understanding that fans wanted their teams to beat other teams.

Genuine question, how old are you?

Fine, come on an Everton forum, debate with us, disagree with us but it is extremely childish to go running back to your friends snitching just because a few of us don't like your team. Whether you have attempted to hide it or not, it is extremely pathetic and childish.

The latter outlines the issue the former appears to not get.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I wouldn't even know how to define a 'big club'; I find it's usually a made-up term perpetuated by fans of clubs who aren't in the running for anything any more to make themselves feel better. So that's most of us outside of the ESL chums. I guess we're all big clubs.

Does 'big' = big attendances? Or does 'big' = lots of success? If the latter, how recent does the success have to be for a club to still be 'big'? Imagine trying to compare the 'bigness' of Newcastle and Sunderland, for example, if you're basing it on silverware. We last won a trophy in 1969 and they last won a trophy in 1973. By that metric we're both tiny. If 'big' is defined by the division you are presently in, then obviously we're currently far bigger.

Or big as in the size of your fans?

Changing topic, do you know Paulie Belta?