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[BNJ1878]

I take it you both have not dealt with the Crown Prosecution a service before?

Their incompetence doesn't make it right.

 

[andy4efc]

Don’t think you can blame the police. That’s their job at the end of the day. Someone makes a complaint of that nature they have to look into it. Cases like this don’t get resolved within a week.

Oh I agree.

But from his point of view, he's lost 18-20months worth of work? (assuming he hasn't been getting a wage). There is a reasonable case there.

 

[andy4efc]

I can’t see how we have a lost revenue case. We chose to suspend him, City didn’t suspend Mendy when he was arrested, only when he was charged, Sunderland still played Johnson AFTER he told the club he was going to plead guilty.

As someone else repied to you noting 'legal action'.

Probably not legal action but a case could be put forward with regards to the financial side as it's an asset that has become unsellable for reasons beyond Everton's control. I get your point re: Mendy/Johnson but just because they haven't, doesnt mean it isnt the right thing to do and that can be leaned on in any such argument to the PL.

As I said, it's a potential avenue the club may go down, not neccessarily one that would work or would be followed.

 

[davies1878]

I hope he sues them for everything they have, terrible 18 months of his life just gone like that.
Also as a wider point could have sent us down that, he was worth 8-10 goals and assists last season.

 

[trueblue84]

This is exactly my issue with it all - yes, not being charged doesn't mean he hasn't done anything morally wrong and we should remember that, but if the evidence they had didn't meet the charging threshold after, say, 6 months of investigating, what more evidence were they hoping to find? They've just deprived the guy of a full year beyond that.

From what I'd heard of the case, a settlement wasn't an option. He was allegedly set up and being blackmailed. It was he who went to the police.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I take it you both have not dealt with the Crown Prosecution a service before?

I'm actually more qualified to discuss the CPS than I am Everton.

We don't have access to the facts, but I read this in February and was inclined to agree;

"The case had been dragged on for far longer than legally reasonable, he argued. “If someone is detained in some [other] country for some hypothetical offense, you can’t just let him languish there for a year, year and a half just endlessly waiting,” he said. At the time, the footballer’s family hoped to change [Player name] legal domicile to [Player country] so as to make it harder for the British judiciary to extend his travel ban"

 

[andy4efc]

Cases like this are always very difficult to prove. Usually a case of "She says / he says" unless the woman reports the incident immediately.
I'm wondering if there has been a settlement here and as such, she has declined to give any further evidence. It's a bit odd that it has taken this length of time and there are no winners from this. Life moves on. Hope the parties involved are able to do so.

I dont know enough of the legal system, but can you settle a case like this where it involves a minor? My gut instinct would be 'surely not'.

 

[Del-boy]

Their incompetence doesn't make it right.

I think it’s more of a lack of funding in the criminal justice system leading to delays.
But I agree, two years is a long time to wait for a decision. Some people wait even longer than that.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Mitigation etc you're probably in FFP terms as others have suggested looking at £14-15m. That still doesn't excuse the other questionable Covid losses but amortisation plus wages probably £14-15m.

 

[RomanReigns]

everton can at least now play him....oh wait

 

[Ruairi77]

No, no it does not

so someone is charged with a crime, there is not enough evidence to convict, you think they are guilty?

 

[witchdoc187]

Having charges dropped due to not enough evidence does not equal innocence

in the eyes of the law it does but i know what you mean.

 

[andy4efc]

so someone is charged with a crime, there is not enough evidence to convict, you think they are guilty?

Connor is getting at they aren't innocent or guilty as they haven't been found either.

I think, and Connor can correct me if im wrong, but I think Connor was merely saying that he hasn't been found innocent, just that there isn't the evidence to even charge him.

If i steal some sweets from the sweetshop, but the cameras weren't working. There will be no evidence to charge me for theft but it doesn't mean im innocent of stealing.

Equally, the same works for guilty as well.

 

[4737carlin]

From what I'd heard of the case, a settlement wasn't an option. He was allegedly set up and being blackmailed. It was he who went to the police.

Yeah a honey trap as they call it

 

[Connor]

Connor is getting at they aren't innocent or guilty as they haven't been found either.

I think, and Connor can correct me if im wrong, but I think Connor was merely saying that he hasn't been found innocent, just that there isn't the evidence to even charge him.

If i steal some sweets from the sweetshop, but the cameras weren't working. There will be no evidence to charge me for theft but it doesn't mean im innocent of stealing.

Equally, the same works for guilty as well.

Correct

He also, APPARENTLY, handed himself in when it started.