News of Ex Players

[when i score we riot]

Welp, there's that Doucoure-shaped hole in our midfield he can fill now that he presumably isn't filling smaller ones

 

[when i score we riot]

Also I jest and also I should probably be sorry

 

[magicjuan]

lost out on a full season we could’ve been playing him in what was an evil season.

Lost out on a potential sale that could have kept us the right side of fair play finances, if, we wanted to argue that as a 'defence'

 

[everton1953]

Also I jest and also I should probably be sorry

!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kev The Rat]

of course he was, you think an employer can just decide not to pay someone while under police investigation?!

yes, possibly.

this was discussed here at the time but you can be sacked If the allegation has a direct effect on the employee's work – for example a player under investigation for child sex offences would find it difficult to work at the club due to safety concerns as he will come into direct contact with young people, thereby making his continued employment impossible. an employer may consider taking disciplinary action up to, and including, dismissal in that case.

 

[The binman chronicles]

So basically he is innocent, because they didn't have a case they could prove, that means you are innocent.
No record, no having to sign registers or anything, it's like it never happened.

If you define not guilty as innocent, then they are not ...

They might have had a witness who due to age/mental state might not have withstood the barrage from the defence etc. which will end up losing the case. You guys are just taking the 'innocent until proven guilty" line as a totally factual statement, when we know there have been and will always be people who get away with crimes that they have committed.

All that has happened is a person has not been charged with a suspected offence. If you want to say in the eyes of the law that person is innocent, fine, but I'd imagine in the eyes of the law that worked on his case will be pretty pissed off with the decision.

 

[marnie]

Lads he's gone for good forget it. It's all about the FFP arguement now.

 

[Bwana]

yes, possibly.

this was discussed here at the time but you can be sacked If the allegation has a direct effect on the employee's work – for example a player under investigation for child sex offences would find it difficult to work at the club due to safety concerns as he will come into direct contact with young people, thereby making his continued employment impossible. an employer may consider taking disciplinary action up to, and including, dismissal in that case.

Yep, as would happen with teachers etc.

The trouble starts if the accused is not found guilty. The compensation demands would be huge. Looong time ago Chelsea kept on paying Mutu's wages until he was found guilty. After that they sued Mutu. I'm guessing this has been Everton's way forward too but as usual, Everton that.

From FFP-point of view this should ease our pain though. He would've been sold for 30 mill or so.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Yep, as would happen with teachers etc.

The trouble starts if the accused is not found guilty. The compensation demands would be huge. Looong time ago Chelsea kept on paying Mutu's wages until he was found guilty. After that they sued Mutu. I'm guessing this has been Everton's way forward too but as usual, Everton that.

From FFP-point of view this should ease our pain though. He would've been sold for 30 mill or so.

I think there is case law where the employer was sued by an employee who sacked due to being arrested and under investigation and subsequently was either found not guilty or the charges were dropped.

The employer won the case as the judge accepted that due to safeguarding concerns due to the nature of the allegations he could not have been allowed back into the workplace in the period prior to his acquittal leaving the employer with no choice but to dismiss.

I don’t know what happened to the player at Everton in terms of payment but I do know that every employee of any football club in the uk will need to pass a DBS.

If the club chose to pay him to sit at home then that’s a choice they made.

 

[anjelikaferrett]

I thought he was paid until his contract ran out- sometime last year. No new contract, no pay.

 

[Kev The Rat]

If that was the case and say, he was found innocent or the charges are dropped you would be sued to high heaven if you sacked him or suspended him with no pay.

It could lead to scenarios where a primary school teacher gets sacked for allegations which had no basis in fact (sayy for example by a jilted lover). Then you could sue for wrongful dismissal and a whole host of damages.

Even worse said teacher could get a mate to file charges so you could pocket out of the ensuing fracas.

Not necessarily - see my post above

The employer may have had no choice but to sack and the courts would take this into account.

Don’t forget we are discussing possible child sex offences here and not fracas between adults

And by not sacking the player, he is benefiting financially anyway as he isn’t able to play. So not exactly the ‘no brainer’ you are suggesting.

 

[roydo]

I thought he was paid until his contract ran out- sometime last year. No new contract, no pay.

Yeah. Last July he was a former EFC player.

 

[Littlesue]

Really? Where did you get that from?

Common knowledge he was getting paid for the year untill hisl contract finished

 

[BNJ1878]

Mate unless we are playing pool or table tennis he aint't match fit.

Hahahah I wasn't advocating bringing him back.

Merely pointing out the lunacy of those fawning over free agent James as an option.

 

[everton1953]

I thought he was paid until his contract ran out- sometime last year. No new contract, no pay.

That is right. But I guess nobody outside the club knows if they paid him once he was suspended and no longer active.