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Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%

  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%

  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%

  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%

  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%

  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%
  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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Smudge1985 said:
Moyes is one of the best managers around at what he does. We simply couldnt have got anybody better at the time in 2002 with the position we were in, he was great at getting the absolute best out of average players, and finding a few bargains from the lower leagues and abroad when we inevitably had to sell the players who thought they were too big for us. But as soon as he had turned us around and actually built a very good side...he didnt know how to approach things as anything but an underdog. And thats why he always had a glass ceiling. He is the kind of level of Allardyce, Martin O'Neil, Mark Hughes etc. Good managers at what they do, you'll likely never get relegated with them, and he'll build you a solid enough upper mid table side who can push for Europa League occasionally. They are managers of expectation, at clubs who simply dont believe they have any right to go any further than that. Bolton, Leicester (at the time O'Neil was there anyway!) Stoke, West Ham, Sunderland, Fulham etc. And then there are the likes of us, Villa and Newcastle, who should have greater expectations than that, but have gone through successions of mismanagement to the extent our expectations are now on the floor.

Villa was the club for Moyes to rebuild his reputation. When Sherwood got sacked I mean. He was hanging by a thread at Sociedad, and seemingly everybody but him knew the axe was dangling. I dont believe Villa would have gone down this season had he got the job early in the season, and he would now be at the beginning of a rebuilding job similar to the one he performed with us. Instead, he stuck it out with Sociedad, got sacked too late to take the Villa job and has been sat in limbo waiting for the mythical 'right job' ever since.

And it simply cant be us. To me, Moyes did a good job with us, but he had taken us as far as he was going to in 08/09. Every season after that, it felt like underachievement. We had 11 years of the same thing, knowing deep down full well that the long wait for a trophy was never going to end while he was in charge, and some good European aways every couple of seasons and the odd trip to Wembley being the absolute best we could ever hope for. Its a shame Martinez didnt have the personality to carry on what he did in his first season, because that was the first time in years Id believed the wait was coming to an end. Outplaying Arsenal twice, outplaying Liverpool (only for them to get their obligatory spawny last minute equaliser) winning at Old Trafford, a team full of belief and arrogance, we were desperate for a bit of that in Moyes' final few years. Because we had a lot of good players, and there were always chances to win cups under Moyes. Sadly Liverpool at Wembley became one of the defining games of his era. A totally predictable bottlejob in a huge game and a Derby, all rolled into one.
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Some good points there, but i'm concerned that we may not be able to rectify the damage the Martinez era has done that easily. Some have belittled the achievements Moyes made in getting us fairly regular European trips and a Cup final, but that would be far better than what Martinez has lowered us to.

I can't see us suddenly going from 11th 2 seasons in a row to a 3rd-4th placed finish in the next season or two.

Definitely don't want Moyes back either though. We need to make a statement with this appointment.
 

longers said:
I seem to be different to most football fans in that i don't hold grudges, its completely pointless. I have no dislike whatsoever towards Rooney either, just seems a bit silly being a grown man and getting upset and holding grudges just because someone once said something vaguely rude about the team you support.

Im not really into Peligrini, City should be dominating english football by now with the money they have spent but they aren't and they haven't looked anything special in ages now.
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With Moyes ok you can say move past calling Everton fans a disgrace for me but don't belittle the 4th most decorated club in English footballing history.

Its bad enough Rafael has been tainted by the dark side but to have a pop at the club calling them a small club sorry mate nope.

I hate the redside but I respect the club as an institution so its about having some class and sorry fatboy lacks that.

For me i want a manager that at least respects the club even if he does not share the same love we all have for Everton
 

Toffeeslam said:
With Moyes ok you can say move past calling Everton fans a disgrace for me but don't belittle the 4th most decorated club in English footballing history.

Its bad enough Rafael has been tainted by the dark side but to have a pop at the club calling them a small club sorry mate nope.

I hate the redside but I respect the club as an institution so its about having some class and sorry fatboy lacks that.

For me i want a manager that at least respects the club even if he does not share the same love we all have for Everton
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Worrying vocabulary on display here mate.
 
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