Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%
  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%
  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%
  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%

  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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Honestly though, this is like pulling teeth. How are we supposed to touch ourselves while thinking about all the shiny new players we're going to get, when we don't have anyone to buy them in the first place? That's what I want to know
 
Just waiting till every last drop of fume has been dripped out of our fans first before announcing. And announcing in a short, succinct, matter of fact two line tweet.

The Everton Way.
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I dont think we're done with the fume yet lads
 
A) We could have signed him 3 years ago when he was at feyenoord. Or even 2 years ago when he went to southampton.

He had a massively tarnished reputation then,i wonder B) how many of us would have wanted him then?

A) ...we could have got, say, 38 more points that season and pizzed the league. We didn't though. So pull yer knickers up & move on...

B) ...as many as perhaps would have wanted a just relegated manager riding the wave of a spunky cup upset 3 years ago maybe?

The neg surrounding this yet-to-be appointment is astonishing...if not a tad embarrassing at times. Again, compare the sheer weight of experience & nous of the possible new to the tired & one-trick then...it's a no-brainer really. If he applies any of that, the RON, coupled with what he's done at SAINTS...with a factored in bit of discipline & fitness which has been sorely & massively lacking and apparent then all should be good...or it at least should be given the chance to become good and then, hopefully & eventually, great...

People are hanging him out to dry before he's even gotten wet. Ridiculous, narrow-minded & wholly, HUGELY blinkered.

It also stinks of some twinkly-oddballs desperately wanting to be proved right now, before it's even started, because they were proved so wrong RE ROBLERTO then...

Pffffff....

As said previously, get on board, or get off. Whether you dig the appointment or not it's a different time now entirely and if you can't see nor sense that then you really need to ask if it's worth you following the club or not...

Think on this...

...it's JUNE, 2016, we have a billionaire owner used to getting what he wants, the old regime is about to be offed (possibly), we have got shut of a manager who openly said he'd never change his style of play, EVER (how dangerous THAT could have been, eh?), we have a new man - potentially - at the helm who was a FANTASTIC & experienced footballer who won more than ROBERTO could ever even have dreamt of in his stickiest of wet-ones... we have already sold 8/10 seats in ST's...and we have a pot of between 100-150+ million to spunk in the summer....and finally, finally we may have a green-one lit on a new ground...

And that's just skirting SOME of the pozzies.

Could we - as blues & in our wildest - have even consider this on New Years Eve...?????

NOPE...that's the answer BTW.

And yet to some it's still not enough.

Dear....Dear....me.

Grim at times, it really, really is...
 

It isn't that, it's about trusting the information. In these situations people tend to jump the gun, someone may have done that to the Esk, or to any other 'itk' (sic).

We are all blues, so, we should be conditioned to not believing something until there's proof, I.e. Koeman being sent to the stands in his 9th game in charge....

But we don't, we're so desperate for some positivity we go off quickly like when you haven't had a bit for ages and a shelf stacker at Aldi brushes past you in the veg section...and then there's the flash Harry online gambling spread betting community who are scrambling to clear 38p on a left field name like Bobby Davro being appointed.

Strange bunch those Toffees...

Heads straight off to Aldi veg section!
 
It isn't that, it's about trusting the information. In these situations people tend to jump the gun, someone may have done that to the Esk, or to any other 'itk' (sic).

We are all blues, so, we should be conditioned to not believing something until there's proof, I.e. Koeman being sent to the stands in his 9th game in charge....

But we don't, we're so desperate for some positivity we go off quickly like when you haven't had a bit for ages and a shelf stacker at Aldi brushes past you in the veg section...and then there's the flash Harry online gambling spread betting community who are scrambling to clear 38p on a left field name like Bobby Davro being appointed.

Strange bunch those Toffees...

*lumps on Davro
 
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Anyone else think of this character while reading that..

If that Abdo walks past the front of my house rattling a lolly ice stick along the cast iron rails of my gate, annoying my dog and causing me untold grief, I should say OI ABDO NO!

I admire your sultry charms,and your excellent delivery of the current sporting headlines,but stay away from my gate, or i'll send your head back to that Northern rain sodden hell hole in a box.
 

The real important stuff starts now. Player recruitment & new stadium.

Koeman is a solid manager. Will he do a better job than Emery would have? We'll never know? Measuring managers will never be an exact science. Guardiola might be the man to handle the biggest egos, but if you were bottom of the league with a squad of journeymen, Tony Pullis might do a better job.

We'll know in the next few weeks what sort of task Koeman has in front of him & what the expectations will be when we see the quality of signings.


COYB
 
Koeman will get my 100% backing. Good steady manager who will get an all ready promising team more compact at the back and also playing as a team rather than a bunch of individuals. It will be interesting to see who he wants to bring in with the big transfer fund. We will miss Lukakus goals but not his ego and that is where Koemans job starts. Hopefully midfield players will have a better share of the goals this season as under RM we were getting more and more reliant on lukaku whereas a drop of form from him and we were stuffed.

I am excited but nervous because with our money we are more expectant than hopeful. I just hope our fans can just dampen the expectation and give us a few years of stepping up slowly but surely.
 
The real important stuff starts now. Player recruitment & new stadium.

Koeman is a solid manager. Will he do a better job than Emery would have? We'll never know? Measuring managers will never be an exact science. Guardiola might be the man to handle the biggest egos, but if you were bottom of the league with a squad of journeymen, Tony Pullis might do a better job.

We'll know in the next few weeks what sort of task Koeman has in front of him & what the expectations will be when we see the quality of signings.


COYB

Yes indeed. The potential turnover of players, both incoming and outgoing, will be something new for us. We have been conditioned over the years to expect 1-2 decent signings, if any at all. We might see 5 or 6 players arrive in this window, dependent on the situation with Lukaku and Stones.

The good thing is that Koeman is experienced with that level of overhaul.

I think the re-shaping of the squad that is clearly necessary, and Koemans past and very recent experience of this, handled very successfully by any yardstick in the same league, would have been decisive all along in catapulting him to the top of Moshiris wish-list.

If he ultimately has his eyes on more prestigious jobs, he will I feel have to at least qualify us for the Champions League to be considered for Arsenal / Barcelona, and other clubs. Moshiri must feel his relative achievements at Southampton are sufficient to believe he can push on with greater resources here. Arsenal and particularly Barcelona of course, will have higher / much higher relative expectations currently and would hardly make the same mistake United did with Moyes when seeking their next manager.

If the ultimate price of appointing Koeman in 2-3 years time was to be moaning on here that he had just left us when we had won a cup or were looking forward to Champions League football, then it's more than worth paying in my view. Stabilising the ship with a few successive top 6 finishes and a cup semi-final will not be an improvement on what he has already "achieved" and will not see him considered for elite jobs.

For a man approaching his mid-fifties and with a patchy record at best, this is probably a bigger risk for him than us at this point. I can understand why he might initially have been reluctant to jump. It is good that Moshiri has got him as No.1 target, and equally good that Koeman must obviously now fancy himself to achieve something tangible with Everton, with whatever performance targets (I hope) will have been discussed and agreed.

Whether he is up it or not, only time and fate will tell. Not my first (or 2nd/3rd) choice for the job by any means, but crucially is Moshiris. I am going to back him 110%. We have had a dreadful two years to endure and I was, like all of you, sick to my stomach of it. Let the man come in and see what he can do for us with solid backing and pass judgement then.
 

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