Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%

  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%

  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%

  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%

  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%

  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%
  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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Hello fellas, here a Dutch perspective on the FdB situation.

Jaap Stam is not part of his staff anymore, he's managing their 2nd team in the Dutch 2nd division but he has already anounced he's leaving at the end of the season because he wants to manage a club himself, preferably in England. He originally wanted to take over from FdB but got tired of waiting for the job to open up.

Dennis Bergkamp I can't really see coming to Everton, at least from everything that he has said in recent years and more recently too. He doesn't seem ready to leave Ajax yet, but if he will he only seems open to an Arsenal move. He has no aspirations of becoming a manager, he wants to stay out of the limelight. He's not just an assistant at Ajax by the way, he's heavily involved with overall technical policy at Ajax, along with Overmars and Van der Sar. So any successor to FdB there will basically be appointed by them, just to clarify that FdB's successor won't be a reason for Bergkamp to leave either. It will likely be another former Ajax player.

The thing is, I know both Bergkamp and Stam are big names in England, and their backgrounds could certainly help settle quickly in English football, but from a coaching perspective I question their roles in FdB's success at Ajax to a degree. FdB already won 3 Dutch championships before Stam joined Ajax as his assistant. Bergkamp is known to be a very introverted guy, who is more involved with individual and technical coaching than anything else, although I'm sure he does have other input aswell. But the role of the other assistant, Spijkerman, is supposed to be alot bigger. He's the older experienced guy who excells at organisation and communication, and is supposed to organise most of the training too. He is seen as the calm in the storm who takes alot of pressure and work away from FdB.

That said, for me there's no doubt that Frank de Boer himself is mostly responsible for his success at Ajax. He has always been a leader, and a winner. And he's has a big future ahead of him as a manager I think.
 
Milan have made a big move for Pellegrini. He's pretty much there, if their projected take over goes through.

We did make contact - some weeks ago, and he was interested - but that's the last I know of it.

Koeman would be my ideal second choice. Whether he would leave Sotton or prefer to wait for a 'bigger' job, remains to be seen. De Boer is another one, (not sure of any firm links or if we have enquired), though I'd still prefer Koeman as he has the added factor of PL experience.

As far as I know as well, the story about Flores is true. We have indeed enquired with his agency.
 
DutchJack said:
Hello fellas, here a Dutch perspective on the FdB situation.

Jaap Stam is not part of his staff anymore, he's managing their 2nd team in the Dutch 2nd division but he has already anounced he's leaving at the end of the season because he wants to manage a club himself, preferably in England. He originally wanted to take over from FdB but got tired of waiting for the job to open up.

Dennis Bergkamp I can't really see coming to Everton, at least from everything that he has said in recent years and more recently too. He doesn't seem ready to leave Ajax yet, but if he will he only seems open to an Arsenal move. He has no aspirations of becoming a manager, he wants to stay out of the limelight. He's not just an assistant at Ajax by the way, he's heavily involved with overall technical policy at Ajax, along with Overmars and Van der Sar. So any successor to FdB there will basically be appointed by them, just to clarify that FdB's successor won't be a reason for Bergkamp to leave either. It will likely be another former Ajax player.

The thing is, I know both Bergkamp and Stam are big names in England, and their backgrounds could certainly help settle quickly in English football, but from a coaching perspective I question their roles in FdB's success at Ajax to a degree. FdB already won 3 Dutch championships before Stam joined Ajax as his assistant. Bergkamp is known to be a very introverted guy, who is more involved with individual and technical coaching than anything else, although I'm sure he does have other input aswell. But the role of the other assistant, Spijkerman, is supposed to be alot bigger. He's the older experienced guy who excells at organisation and communication, and is supposed to organise most of the training too. He is seen as the calm in the storm who takes alot of pressure and work away from FdB.

That said, for me there's no doubt that Frank de Boer himself is mostly responsible for his success at Ajax. He has always been a leader, and a winner. And he's has a big future ahead of him as a manager I think.
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Yes Jack yes.
 

DutchJack said:
Hello fellas, here a Dutch perspective on the FdB situation.

Jaap Stam is not part of his staff anymore, he's managing their 2nd team in the Dutch 2nd division but he has already anounced he's leaving at the end of the season because he wants to manage a club himself, preferably in England. He originally wanted to take over from FdB but got tired of waiting for the job to open up.

Dennis Bergkamp I can't really see coming to Everton, at least from everything that he has said in recent years and more recently too. He doesn't seem ready to leave Ajax yet, but if he will he only seems open to an Arsenal move. He has no aspirations of becoming a manager, he wants to stay out of the limelight. He's not just an assistant at Ajax by the way, he's heavily involved with overall technical policy at Ajax, along with Overmars and Van der Sar. So any successor to FdB there will basically be appointed by them, just to clarify that FdB's successor won't be a reason for Bergkamp to leave either. It will likely be another former Ajax player.

The thing is, I know both Bergkamp and Stam are big names in England, and their backgrounds could certainly help settle quickly in English football, but from a coaching perspective I question their roles in FdB's success at Ajax to a degree. FdB already won 3 Dutch championships before Stam joined Ajax as his assistant. Bergkamp is known to be a very introverted guy, who is more involved with individual and technical coaching than anything else, although I'm sure he does have other input aswell. But the role of the other assistant, Spijkerman, is supposed to be alot bigger. He's the older experienced guy who excells at organisation and communication, and is supposed to organise most of the training too. He is seen as the calm in the storm who takes alot of pressure and work away from FdB.

That said, for me there's no doubt that Frank de Boer himself is mostly responsible for his success at Ajax. He has always been a leader, and a winner. And he's has a big future ahead of him as a manager I think.
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Great stuff this mate.

Can you give us any insight into De Boer's style of play? From what I've read it's more of the same but with a lot more pressing and much more organization.
 
DutchJack said:
Hello fellas, here a Dutch perspective on the FdB situation.

Jaap Stam is not part of his staff anymore, he's managing their 2nd team in the Dutch 2nd division but he has already anounced he's leaving at the end of the season because he wants to manage a club himself, preferably in England. He originally wanted to take over from FdB but got tired of waiting for the job to open up.

Dennis Bergkamp I can't really see coming to Everton, at least from everything that he has said in recent years and more recently too. He doesn't seem ready to leave Ajax yet, but if he will he only seems open to an Arsenal move. He has no aspirations of becoming a manager, he wants to stay out of the limelight. He's not just an assistant at Ajax by the way, he's heavily involved with overall technical policy at Ajax, along with Overmars and Van der Sar. So any successor to FdB there will basically be appointed by them, just to clarify that FdB's successor won't be a reason for Bergkamp to leave either. It will likely be another former Ajax player.

The thing is, I know both Bergkamp and Stam are big names in England, and their backgrounds could certainly help settle quickly in English football, but from a coaching perspective I question their roles in FdB's success at Ajax to a degree. FdB already won 3 Dutch championships before Stam joined Ajax as his assistant. Bergkamp is known to be a very introverted guy, who is more involved with individual and technical coaching than anything else, although I'm sure he does have other input aswell. But the role of the other assistant, Spijkerman, is supposed to be alot bigger. He's the older experienced guy who excells at organisation and communication, and is supposed to organise most of the training too. He is seen as the calm in the storm who takes alot of pressure and work away from FdB.

That said, for me there's no doubt that Frank de Boer himself is mostly responsible for his success at Ajax. He has always been a leader, and a winner. And he's has a big future ahead of him as a manager I think.
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You think he could hack it here?
 
DutchJack said:
Hello fellas, here a Dutch perspective on the FdB situation.

Jaap Stam is not part of his staff anymore, he's managing their 2nd team in the Dutch 2nd division but he has already anounced he's leaving at the end of the season because he wants to manage a club himself, preferably in England. He originally wanted to take over from FdB but got tired of waiting for the job to open up.

Dennis Bergkamp I can't really see coming to Everton, at least from everything that he has said in recent years and more recently too. He doesn't seem ready to leave Ajax yet, but if he will he only seems open to an Arsenal move. He has no aspirations of becoming a manager, he wants to stay out of the limelight. He's not just an assistant at Ajax by the way, he's heavily involved with overall technical policy at Ajax, along with Overmars and Van der Sar. So any successor to FdB there will basically be appointed by them, just to clarify that FdB's successor won't be a reason for Bergkamp to leave either. It will likely be another former Ajax player.

The thing is, I know both Bergkamp and Stam are big names in England, and their backgrounds could certainly help settle quickly in English football, but from a coaching perspective I question their roles in FdB's success at Ajax to a degree. FdB already won 3 Dutch championships before Stam joined Ajax as his assistant. Bergkamp is known to be a very introverted guy, who is more involved with individual and technical coaching than anything else, although I'm sure he does have other input aswell. But the role of the other assistant, Spijkerman, is supposed to be alot bigger. He's the older experienced guy who excells at organisation and communication, and is supposed to organise most of the training too. He is seen as the calm in the storm who takes alot of pressure and work away from FdB.

That said, for me there's no doubt that Frank de Boer himself is mostly responsible for his success at Ajax. He has always been a leader, and a winner. And he's has a big future ahead of him as a manager I think.
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Thanks for the interesting insight.
 

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