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chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
Based on what though? why would he make a mockery of this league?
I have heard that about plenty of managers, few have succeeded.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Im astounded you have FDB below Favre and Koeman.
You have disappointed me.
Greatly.
An overview of Favre I posted on another forum which I think might be relevant and may get you guys excited:
Favre took Echallens to the highest they've been in the Swiss league structure, took a Yverdon-Sport team strugglng at the bottom of second division Swiss football to promotion and managed to guide them to a 5th place finish in their first year in the top flight of Swiss football, their best finish to date, won the Swiss Cup with Servette and took them to the R16 of the UEFA Cup, guided FC Zurich to their first league title in 25 years, took Hertha Berlin to a 4th place finish in only his second season there whilst only having the 13th biggest budget in the entire league, took Gladbach from the brink of relegation and guided them towards survival THEN managed to take the exact just about the same starting 11, which had almost got relegated the season before, to a 4th place finish and they steadily consolidated themselves in the higher echelons of German football for the rest of the time he was there.
His record when it comes to molding younger players as well as improving players in general is not too shabby. I remember Dante was the joke of the Bundesliga for a while but then a season and a half later he wound up being bought by Bayern where he played an important role in leading them to a CL win, and who could forget how formidable he made Reus look.
Favre took Echallens to the highest they've been in the Swiss league structure, took a Yverdon-Sport team strugglng at the bottom of second division Swiss football to promotion and managed to guide them to a 5th place finish in their first year in the top flight of Swiss football, their best finish to date, won the Swiss Cup with Servette and took them to the R16 of the UEFA Cup, guided FC Zurich to their first league title in 25 years, took Hertha Berlin to a 4th place finish in only his second season there whilst only having the 13th biggest budget in the entire league, took Gladbach from the brink of relegation and guided them towards survival THEN managed to take the exact just about the same starting 11, which had almost got relegated the season before, to a 4th place finish and they steadily consolidated themselves in the higher echelons of German football for the rest of the time he was there.
His record when it comes to molding younger players as well as improving players in general is not too shabby. I remember Dante was the joke of the Bundesliga for a while but then a season and a half later he wound up being bought by Bayern where he played an important role in leading them to a CL win, and who could forget how formidable he made Reus look.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Just an update. Earlier report was premature. Awaiting further information.
Apologies.
Its an ever changing list, the fact that Frank makes it should make him happy.
And I honestly keep forgetting about Sammy Lee, so lets switch them round.
1. Cocu
2. Favre
3. Frank De Boer
4. Koeman
Happy now Zat?
Arteta10
Player Valuation: £10m
Swiss football doesnt excite me
You can't compare the Eredevisie with the Bundesliga. The Bundesliga is only just below the Prem in quality. And De Boer won it with the biggest club in the country when most of his rivals fell apart - Favre wildly overperformed with a hugely underfunded/unfashionable team.
You're going to hate me for this but I think Long for 12m to Southampton was a genuinely decent buy.
*hides*
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
1-- Mourinho
2-- De Boer / Cocu
That's my current shortlist.
Koeman = Dutch Moyes
Emery = Not won an away game all season
Favre = Lost 5 games on the spin and jumped ship.
On Emery, he has Sergio Rico in goal whose just off De Gea level...would love us to sign him. World class.
2-- De Boer / Cocu
That's my current shortlist.
Koeman = Dutch Moyes
Emery = Not won an away game all season
Favre = Lost 5 games on the spin and jumped ship.
On Emery, he has Sergio Rico in goal whose just off De Gea level...would love us to sign him. World class.
The premier league is dross tactically, managers who have struggled in different countries go to England and do just fine.
Pochetinno, Ranieri, Sanches Flores to name a few had spotty records before making their way to England where they've done just fine.
England is tactically regressive, to the extent that innovative managers from the continent can slot in and do fantastically well.
TheFinnFan
Finners
LOLOLLOOOOLLL
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
We dont know if FDB would have done a better job in a different club but he took Ajax with a much lower wage bill than others like AZ and Twente to the first league trophy..likewise Cocu now.
A good manager in Holland could well be a good manager in germany..vice versa.
Who knows if they would be decent here....no one.
Look at Wenger in Japan.
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
No i agree about that - i rate the Bundesliga, always have - yet people where saying it was a joke the other day when i was talking about it.
I just think there is as many questions about Favre as everyone else at the moment. Including the mental aspect of quitting because he lost 5 games
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
The other thing thats maybe concerning me a bit, is he left after 5 games - gave an excuse of not being able to take them further. How come he hasn't gone back in somewhere? there has been plenty of jobs come up.
I just don't know enough about him, thats why am saying i think there is equally questions over him as everyone else.
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