Next Manager (Poll)

[maccavennie]

Benítez is a rat. A human rat measured by his contempt and dismissive attitude towards Everton FC when we had the temerity to draw away at Anfield under his tenure as manager. Asked four years later about those controversial comments after the heat of a Derby battle he was asked to reflect on it by The Guardian when writing a piece about the upcoming game. I stand by every word of it, was his defiance.

I can’t remember the exact words, but it went along the lines of only one team wanted to win, when teams come here looking for a point but what else can you call them, other than a small club? I was at that game and we put in a performance that was first class and AJ missed a sitter to win it. He spent £250m, mainly on dross and his arrogance and divisive nature helpfully saw another barren pursuit of a title since the back pass rule was introduced. Moyes openly laughed at him after that little outburst.

I want nothing to do with him. He would lead us on a merry dance, entice any advance from us, then make it public last minute that he has turned us down because he is proud to have once managed a team that won a Cup after coming back to draw and winning a game on a shootout. He’s dined out on that for years and will continue to. The facts are.....he is a rat and is sat quietly in the background, behind Gerrard, waiting for a call to go back to an unfinished agenda.

As always mate, spot on. He is not befitting of this football club, for me personally it would be of the same level of giving Allardyce the job.

Well done to him winning the trophies he has won a few years ago but the only thing that would attract him to Everton (apart from the pay packet) would be the chance for him to move back into the lovely lifestyle he had when managing the rs

 

[blue to the bone]

Benítez is a rat. A human rat measured by his contempt and dismissive attitude towards Everton FC when we had the temerity to draw away at Anfield under his tenure as manager. Asked four years later about those controversial comments after the heat of a Derby battle he was asked to reflect on it by The Guardian when writing a piece about the upcoming game. I stand by every word of it, was his defiance.

I can’t remember the exact words, but it went along the lines of only one team wanted to win, when teams come here looking for a point but what else can you call them, other than a small club? I was at that game and we put in a performance that was first class and AJ missed a sitter to win it. He spent £250m, mainly on dross and his arrogance and divisive nature helpfully saw another barren pursuit of a title since the back pass rule was introduced. Moyes openly laughed at him after that little outburst.

I want nothing to do with him. He would lead us on a merry dance, entice any advance from us, then make it public last minute that he has turned us down because he is proud to have once managed a team that won a Cup after coming back to draw and winning a game on a shootout. He’s dined out on that for years and will continue to. The facts are.....he is a rat and is sat quietly in the background, behind Gerrard, waiting for a call to go back to an unfinished agenda.

Excellent.
Yet we have people here who would bend over for him . God help us

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Crazy isnt it, go all out for a manager who has a CV of Premier League failure and nothingness, scary

Whilst I appreciate you dislike Silva you are being disingenuous to misrepresent his career prior Hull as ‘nothingness’.
He took Estoril from 10th to champions in the second league and subsequently established them at the top of the first division with 5th and 4th place finish and a European qualification.
At Sporting he guided them to 3rd and won the cup , their first trophy for some years.
At Olympiakos he maintained them as champions whilst setting a 21st Century European record of 17 straight wins.
He arrived at Hull widely regarded as one of the most promising young managers in Europe, and was unlucky in failing to save a Hull side who looked certain to be relegated beforehand.
He did start well at Watford before friction with the owners followed by our approach seemed to derail their season and led to his sacking.
Misrepresenting his career as you continually do does not add veracity to your argument and indeed leaves your deliberately belligerent stance open to ridicule.

 

[4737carlin]

Whilst I appreciate you dislike Silva you are being disingenuous to misrepresent his career prior Hull as ‘nothingness’.
He took Estoril from 10th to champions in the second league and subsequently established them at the top of the first division with 5th and 4th place finish and a European qualification.
At Sporting he guided them to 3rd and won the cup , their first trophy for some years.
At Olympiakos he maintained them as champions whilst setting a 21st Century European record of 17 straight wins.
He arrived at Hull widely regarded as one of the most promising young managers in Europe, and was unlucky in failing to save a Hull side who looked certain to be relegated beforehand.
He did start well at Watford before friction with the owners followed by our approach seemed to derail their season and led to his sacking.
Misrepresenting his career as you continually do does not add veracity to your argument and indeed leaves your deliberately belligerent stance open to ridicule.

See what he did prior to Hull might of got him that rep but it was a reputation good enough to get him a job at Hull. Now he proberly did do well there, but our ambitions should be a lot higher then Hull's, a team hoping to stay up should of been his level, not one looking to get to a level much higher.
Likewise Watford, how many games did he win, 8? We went in far to early, if anything he needed 2 seasons there before Everton should of even looked at him.
Also it's hard to say our interest derailed Watfords season, they might of got off to a decent run but badly it fizzled out, they sacked him for poor results, like we are getting, but no team is tapping him up right now, so cant make the encroachment excuse.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

See what he did prior to Hull might of got him that rep but it was a reputation good enough to get him a job at Hull. Now he proberly did do well there, but our ambitions should be a lot higher then Hull's, a team hoping to stay up should of been his level, not one looking to get to a level much higher.
Likewise Watford, how many games did he win, 8? We went in far to early, if anything he needed 2 seasons there before Everton should of even looked at him.
Also it's hard to say our interest derailed Watfords season, they might of got off to a decent run but badly it fizzled out, they sacked him for poor results, like we are getting, but no team is tapping him up right now, so cant make the encroachment excuse.

I understand your antipathy to Silva , it’s a results game and he currently isn’t getting enough of them.
However I differ in that I still think he is capable of getting the team out of this malaise and get us back up the table ,given time and patience.
My point of contention was only that you (and others) misrepresent his previous career to support your argument when in fact it only serves to undermine your position by making you seem ill informed , which clearly you are not.

 

[GARY_EVERTONIAN]

are we getting restless because arsenal need a new manager and we r afraid they will get Mourinho/Arteta before us ?

 

[Bob Elstone]

Whilst I appreciate you dislike Silva you are being disingenuous to misrepresent his career prior Hull as ‘nothingness’.
He took Estoril from 10th to champions in the second league and subsequently established them at the top of the first division with 5th and 4th place finish and a European qualification.
At Sporting he guided them to 3rd and won the cup , their first trophy for some years.
At Olympiakos he maintained them as champions whilst setting a 21st Century European record of 17 straight wins.
He arrived at Hull widely regarded as one of the most promising young managers in Europe, and was unlucky in failing to save a Hull side who looked certain to be relegated beforehand.
He did start well at Watford before friction with the owners followed by our approach seemed to derail their season and led to his sacking.
Misrepresenting his career as you continually do does not add veracity to your argument and indeed leaves your deliberately belligerent stance open to ridicule.

guiding sporting to 3rd? In a two horse race. Ha reaching mate.

he’s garbage and Hull standard. Get rid.

 

[Zatara]

Whilst I appreciate you dislike Silva you are being disingenuous to misrepresent his career prior Hull as ‘nothingness’.
He took Estoril from 10th to champions in the second league and subsequently established them at the top of the first division with 5th and 4th place finish and a European qualification.
At Sporting he guided them to 3rd and won the cup , their first trophy for some years.
At Olympiakos he maintained them as champions whilst setting a 21st Century European record of 17 straight wins.
He arrived at Hull widely regarded as one of the most promising young managers in Europe, and was unlucky in failing to save a Hull side who looked certain to be relegated beforehand.
He did start well at Watford before friction with the owners followed by our approach seemed to derail their season and led to his sacking.
Misrepresenting his career as you continually do does not add veracity to your argument and indeed leaves your deliberately belligerent stance open to ridicule.

I understand your antipathy to Silva , it’s a results game and he currently isn’t getting enough of them.
However I differ in that I still think he is capable of getting the team out of this malaise and get us back up the table ,given time and patience.
My point of contention was only that you (and others) misrepresent his previous career to support your argument when in fact it only serves to undermine your position by making you seem ill informed , which clearly you are not.

Totally spot on, hopefully @Tel001 takes note of your posts as well. Very deep misrepresentation of Silvas career by a few posters...unnecessary.

The fact is, the team isnt good enough at present to get into the top 4 or the top 6. Surely thats pretty obvious simply looking at the spine of the team:

Pickford--Keane--Davies--Sigurdsson--DCL

No idea how that can appear to be a top 6 spine.

Even looking at the squad Coleman (finished), Baines (finished), Keane(neh) Kean(adapting) Gomes(inconsistent) delph(meh) Schneiderlin (meh) and Walcott (3 or 4 good games since he joined) its very weak indeed.

This teams ceiling is 7th or 8th currently. Were 3 pts off 7th and would be there if not for a VAR robbery.

Before theres talk of Mourinho (which @MarcelsGoat has already addressed as a non starter) there needs to be 2 or 3 more summers to rebuild the squad.

At that point (as Brands has said) we can then look at 3 in and 3 out every summer. That suits a top manager looking for proven stars to come in and go for top positions and cups...

Im not sure how people fail to understand this.

guiding sporting to 3rd? In a two horse race. Ha reaching mate.

he’s garbage and Hull standard. Get rid.

Again someone with a lack of knowledge on a subject.

Silva lost 7 in 53 games and won their first trophy in 7 years.

For you to dismiss that and claim he finished 3rd in a 2 horse race (Porto / Benfica / Sporting) makes you look a bit silly especially when he took Estoril up from the dephs of the league below and took them a whisker from 3rd the year before.

If youre going to use a stick to beat Silva with then it shouldnt be his time at ANY other club before Everton.

 

[phil_t98]

I would not beg any one anyway as you said.
No one should need to be begged to come here

who said we would beg? apparently he tried to come here twice when he was Newcastle manager

 

[TyphooToffee]

are we getting restless because arsenal need a new manager and we r afraid they will get Mourinho/Arteta before us ?

They can have Mourinho as far as I'm concerned. I can't believe he's the favourite on here.

 

[garyw]

Excellent.
Yet we have people here who would bend over for him . God help us

I am 58 years of age & have followed Everton home & away nearly all my life I would not go again if that RAT comes anywhere near our club !

 

[blue to the bone]

who said we would beg? apparently he tried to come here twice when he was Newcastle manager

A poster above

 

[Tel001]

Totally spot on, hopefully @Tel001 takes note of your posts as well. Very deep misrepresentation of Silvas career by a few posters...unnecessary.

The fact is, the team isnt good enough at present to get into the top 4 or the top 6. Surely thats pretty obvious simply looking at the spine of the team:

Pickford--Keane--Davies--Sigurdsson--DCL

No idea how that can appear to be a top 6 spine.

Even looking at the squad Coleman (finished), Baines (finished), Keane(neh) Kean(adapting) Gomes(inconsistent) delph(meh) Schneiderlin (meh) and Walcott (3 or 4 good games since he joined) its very weak indeed.

This teams ceiling is 7th or 8th currently. Were 3 pts off 7th and would be there if not for a VAR robbery.

Before theres talk of Mourinho (which @MarcelsGoat has already addressed as a non starter) there needs to be 2 or 3 more summers to rebuild the squad.

At that point (as Brands has said) we can then look at 3 in and 3 out every summer. That suits a top manager looking for proven stars to come in and go for top positions and cups...

Im not sure how people fail to understand this.




Again someone with a lack of knowledge on a subject.

Silva lost 7 in 53 games and won their first trophy in 7 years.

For you to dismiss that and claim he finished 3rd in a 2 horse race (Porto / Benfica / Sporting) makes you look a bit silly especially when he took Estoril up from the dephs of the league below and took them a whisker from 3rd the year before.

If youre going to use a stick to beat Silva with then it shouldnt be his time at ANY other club before Everton.

You have intentionally picked the worst players to suit you’re agenda , you put Davies in the “spine “ is this the same Davies that hadn’t started a game for 18months? Again st Brighton he had digne , sidibe, Bernard, Gomes , Iwobi , richy all starting so that’s 6 of the 10 outfield players as his players , this season we have also had Mina playing which is another of his, and usually Delph which is another. So he has been fielding teams of which 80% of the players have been signed by him. He changed it for westham and seems that was forced upon him through injuries as he reverted straight back to his tried and tested ( and failed) plan A as soon as he could

 

[riddick]

Dortmund may sack Favre for some inexplicable reason. If they move on we should be allll over that appointment. He's who we should have gotten instead of that moon headed tit from Southampton.

 

[Zatara]

Dortmund may sack Favre for some inexplicable reason. If they move on we should be allll over that appointment. He's who we should have gotten instead of that moon headed tit from Southampton.

Why?