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OK let's go with something simple like Punting:

teams usually punt on 4th down. The team punting cannot be 5 yards past the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted or its a penalty. Also if the receiving team does not touch the ball on the punt the ball is dead and the receving team gets the ball there it is downed. HOWEVER if the ball even touches one of the receiveing team's players then it is live and the punting team can recover it. Now remember this is different from kickoffs where the ball is live at all times and the receiveing team has to touch it except the ball on a kickoff has to travel 10 yards and all 11 players have to be behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is kicked off. If the punt goes into the endzone the receiving team gets it on the FCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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OK let's go with something simple like Punting:

teams usually punt on 4th down. The team punting cannot be 5 yards past the line of scrimmage before the ball is punted or its a penalty. Also if the receiving team does not touch the ball on the punt the ball is dead and the receving team gets the ball there it is downed. HOWEVER if the ball even touches one of the receiveing team's players then it is live and the punting team can recover it. Now remember this is different from kickoffs where the ball is live at all times and the receiveing team has to touch it except the ball on a kickoff has to travel 10 yards and all 11 players have to be behind the line of scrimmage when the ball is kicked off. If the punt goes into the endzone the receiving team gets it on the FCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Also, it's a little different in Canada, where the receiver has to bring the ball out of the end zone on punts and kickoffs or be subject to a single point awarded to the punting team. This point is known as a single or "rouge". (ask an American about Canadian football and they'll usually just grunt, say "rouge", and ask you if you have any Labatt's on ice.)

Plus the field is 110 years long with end zones that are twice as deep as US gridiron. And they only have three downs instead of four. What's a down, you say? ffs...

I haven't even gotten to the difference between NFL rules and college rules.

Are you ready for some football?
 
Instant replay:

Coaches have a red flag. When there is a questional call the coach will throw the red flag and millions are fat blokes will procede to put down their drinks and analyse the fate of 2 insignificant yards between a pair of no hope teams like they are watching the Kennedy assassianation. After 5 or so minutes and a few Coors Light commericals (THE CAN LETS YOU KNOW ITS COLD DOES YOUR BEER DO THAT!) the refs will then make a call which is usually the wrong one anyway because of Barack Obama.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...e-deflategate-judge-grills-nfl-over-brady-ban

Interesting stuff

Ultimately though, I don't think it matters what the judge says. The collective bargaining agreement means that Goodell can pretty much do what he wants. The judge can only really try and get them to settle it

2 Game ban in the end I reckon

Yea the union pretty much signed off on giving all power to Goodell despite the fact that all evidence pointed to the fact that he just makes it up as he goes along.
 

Yea the union pretty much signed off on giving all power to Goodell despite the fact that all evidence pointed to the fact that he just makes it up as he goes along.

One union, one league, thirty two owners, and one fuhrer to lead them all. What could possibly go wrong?

"hey, hey!! We're all making money here, so why all the drama?"

2 3 Game ban in the end I reckon

Jaguars schedule:
Sep. 13 Carolina Panthers
Sep. 20 Miami Dolphins
Sep. 27 at New England Patriots



 
They were nice enough to make me a grocery shopping and general errands schedule, but didn't exactly leave enough room for shopping lists. FFS graphic designers, get it together.

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My lad was watching it one night, and I ended up watching it with him. just started the final series now.

Tell you what, couldn't believe how big college football is.
Yeah it's huge. My brother follows it. Wallace out the 1st season of the wire is the east Dillon quarter back in FNL

Oh yeah. In a good chunk of the country college football is the biggest spectator sport. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc. Think "Deep South".

Some of the largest stadiums in the world belong to college football teams. This is "The Big House", Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor outside of Detroit. It seats over 100,000 people.

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Sniff it, Camp Nou.
 

Oh yeah. In a good chunk of the country college football is the biggest spectator sport. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc. Think "Deep South".

Some of the largest stadiums in the world belong to college football teams. This is "The Big House", Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor outside of Detroit. It seats over 100,000 people.

Michigan-stadium-night-game-52.jpg


Sniff it, Camp Nou.
yeah the stadiums are boss . When I eventually see a packers home game I will try and tie it in with a badgers game the same weekend. I'm going to try and follow it more this year.
One of my favourite things is being sat in American sports bar on a Saturday night watching a college game with few decent beers and some food. Then same on the Sunday for the NFL. I'm going to miss doing that this year.
 
Oh yeah. In a good chunk of the country college football is the biggest spectator sport. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc. Think "Deep South".

Some of the largest stadiums in the world belong to college football teams. This is "The Big House", Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor outside of Detroit. It seats over 100,000 people.

Michigan-stadium-night-game-52.jpg


Sniff it, Camp Nou.

2014 Attendances for the top 10 schools were all over 90,000:

Ohio State 106,296
Texas A&M 105,123
Michigan 104,909
LSU 101,723
Penn State 101,623
Alabama 101,534
Tennessee 99,754
Texas 94,103
Georgia 92,746
Nebraska 91,249

But this is wandering off topic
 
Okay question for you NFL fans.

I was born in the UK.

Went to school in Florida and supported the closest team to me (Tampa). We won a Superbowl. Things were great.

Then I moved away from Florida and the Glazer family purchased Man U.

Since then Tampa has competed with traditional stalwarts like NYJ, Cleveland and Oakland for "most dysfunctional franchise." I know this was a hat the Bucs wore in the 70s and 80s but that was before my time (of watching NFL).

Perhaps most troubling (more than the fact we never win games) is the fact (before recent CBA changes) the Bucs had by far the lowest actual spend on salary of any team in the league. The Glazers were funnelling money from one team I support to go to a team that buys players from another team I support (and care about more).

I'm a big Mariota fan too and while Winston has positives for sure I think they were very close as prospects and when you factor in the pretty serious red flag on Winston the choice was obvious.

Of course the Bucs made the wrong decision IMO.

So ... this is a long way round to say: thoughts on changing the team you support?

It's something I could never countenance with Everton of course. The idea is abhorrent. However I can't shake one thing: I hate the Glazers. They have completely ruined this team. I don't enjoy watching the games, reading about the team etc.

Keeping Tampa makes sense on one level: I support USF in college (although as you'll see from a rant later I have little love for college sports) and the Lightning in hockey (just flew from Canada to Tampa for the Stanley Cup Final ... which didn't go well but was fun). I don't care about baseball (but I am a Rays fan is forced) or bounceyball (no team in Tampa) so all my US sports teams are in one city which is nice. However if I hate one of them that's not much help.

Am I stuck with this team because of "real sports fan" rules. If we follow the "sports commissioner" rules (Bill Simmons) I might have an out. Simmons wrote (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020227):

The owner of your favorite team treated his fans so egregiously over the years that you couldn't take it anymore -- you would rather not follow them at all then support a franchise with this owner in charge. Just for the record, I reached this point with the Boston Bruins about six years ago. When it happens, you have two options: You can either renounce that team and pick someone else, or you can pretend they're dead, like you're a grieving widow. That's what I do. I'm an NHL widow. I don't even want to date another team.

peak SHIELDBALL scouting right here

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Mark Helfrich was told by a head coach & GM before NFL Draft that “Marcus Mariota not having any red flags was a red flag” #NFLthinking

OMG I bet it was the Bucs.

College football is a better more exciting game. Plus the fan/stadium experience of actually going to the games is fun.

If you enjoy the basic tenets of slavery you'll love college football. ;) The "excitement" is mainly down to the lower skill level and how often teams make mistakes/turnovers/huge comebacks etc. As someone who went to uni in the US I can safely say that watching YOUR team make mistake after mistake is not remotely exciting. It also has the least parity of any major sport.

But yeah I guess if you are a neutral, just watch the top 10 teams (or just the SEC) and don't care that a lot of these people destroy their bodies for no money while the NCAA makes billions then it's fun I guess. I hate the whole culture of college football (I'm not talking about the bands and student section stuff which is undeniably fun -- I mean the actual operation itself is disgusting and bit racist TBH).
 
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Okay question for you NFL fans.

I was born in the UK.

Went to school in Florida and supported the closest team to me (Tampa). We won a Superbowl. Things were great.

Then I moved away from Florida and the Glazer family purchased Man U.

Since then Tampa has competed with traditional stalwarts like NYJ, Cleveland and Oakland for "most dysfunctional franchise." I know this was a hat the Bucs wore in the 70s and 80s but that was before my time (of watching NFL).

Perhaps most troubling (more than the fact we never win games) is the fact (before recent CBA changes) the Bucs had by far the lowest actual spend on salary of any team in the league. The Glazers were funnelling money from one team I support to go to a team that buys players from another team I support (and care about more).

I'm a big Mariota fan too and while Winston has positives for sure I think they were very close as prospects and when you factor in the pretty serious red flag on Winston the choice was obvious.

Of course the Bucs made the wrong decision IMO.

So ... this is a long way round to say: thoughts on changing the team you support?

It's something I could never countenance with Everton of course. The idea is abhorrent. However I can't shake one thing: I hate the Glazers. They have completely ruined this team. I don't enjoy watching the games, reading about the team etc.

Keeping Tampa makes sense on one level: I support USF in college (although as you'll see from a rant later I have little love for college sports) and the Lightning in hockey (just flew from Canada to Tampa for the Stanley Cup Final ... which didn't go well but was fun). I don't care about baseball (but I am a Rays fan is forced) or bounceyball (no team in Tampa) so all my US sports teams are in one city which is nice. However if I hate one of them that's not much help.

Am I stuck with this team because of "real sports fan" rules. If we follow the "sports commissioner" rules (Bill Simmons) I might have an out. Simmons wrote (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020227):

The owner of your favorite team treated his fans so egregiously over the years that you couldn't take it anymore -- you would rather not follow them at all then support a franchise with this owner in charge. Just for the record, I reached this point with the Boston Bruins about six years ago. When it happens, you have two options: You can either renounce that team and pick someone else, or you can pretend they're dead, like you're a grieving widow. That's what I do. I'm an NHL widow. I don't even want to date another team.

A few quick thoughts: being an American sports fan is different from being a football supporter, so it may be possible to switch support (although I don't necessarily recommend this); you always have the option of picking an AFC "second team" that you can genuinely enjoy without overlap on the Bucs; it's ok to follow players you like through the NFL and you are allowed to vicariously enjoy their success while simultaneously loathing the team you support, and since most careers are short you don't have to worry that this fling will turn into a full-on affair.
 

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