No Hunger in Paradise

[the sniderman]

buddy do u need some viagra??

 

[coollino]

I think the younger generation of footballers seem the best there has been in a while. Seem to be a lot more switched on than say the Lampard generation.

 

[Terrarian]

buddy do u need some viagra??

I'm not sure Snides palm n her five friends aren't looking too sexy these days

 

[Seathestars]

This is why I don't start threads, as you were.

To be fair at a young age and loaded it must be difficult to get motivated
If I was loaded when I was like 18/19 I’d be dead now, no question.

 

[Terrarian]

To be fair at a young age and loaded it must be difficult to get motivated
If I was loaded when I was like 18/19 I’d be dead now, no question.

Exactly, thank-you for replying, this is the point. I get it we would or most of us would be living it large. It takes a certain mentality to still put the dedication in to be the best when you are comfortable.

Players need to start earning these fat contracts if you ask me but it's unquantifiable unfortunately.

 

[ste d' indica]

let me stop being snide for a moment buddy to reassure u that ur opinions and threads are as good anyones so roll with me and fight like a bear when the punks come for ur crown.

That is not a ringing endorsement on here lol

 

[Terrarian]

That is not a ringing endorsement on here lol

I tried, I will leave it to others in future, gits lol

 

[Tree13]

I think the idea that you could be as good as you want to be if you just tried a bit harder is a myth peddled by tories to explain away why some people are living in poverty and others are rich beyond our wildest dreams. Rather than accept that society is inherently unfair they make you believe that the only thing stopping you from owning your own island in the Caribbean is your own idleness. It's an idea we've decided to adapt to football now.

I know it's not always popular to say it because some people want life to be like a motivational quote, but everyone has a ceiling. You can't just be the best footballer in the world because you want to be, the talent has to be there. Our squad has a decent amount of talent, but not so much that they can be expected to beat allcomers. There are very few players in our squad who I think could be playing for City, for example, if they just knuckled down a bit. The constant willingness to put every setback down to lack of effort or poor mentality really winds me up.

Your entire reply bears absolutely no relevance to the original post.

 

[Papa Shango]

I'm not convinced.

If they don't have hunger to win things why do they all seemingly want to play for one of the "big boys"?

 

[Tree13]

I'm not convinced.

If they don't have hunger to win things why do they all seemingly want to play for one of the "big boys"?

Expressing a desire to play "for a bigger club", or "in the Champions League" is code for "I want more money".

 

[Terrarian]

I'm not convinced.

If they don't have hunger to win things why do they all seemingly want to play for one of the "big boys"?

Rather than try and help another club to success they take the easy route. A lot of the players I am talking about though aren't good enough to play for the biggest teams but and this goes for Everton especially, they've started paying winners wages to not good enough tat.

 

[Lanolin]

This entire reply bears absolutely no relevance to the original post.

I think it does. I think that's backed up by Terrarian's reply to me originally, in which he says I'm wrong and explains why. I think really you've taken umbrage because I used the word tory and you are one, which is fair enough. I did actually think I should change it to ruling classes but i'd missed the editing window.

 

[Tree13]

I think it does. I think that's backed up by Terrarian's reply to me originally, in which he says I'm wrong and explains why. I think really you've taken umbrage because I used the word tory and you are one, which is fair enough. I did actually think I should change it to ruling classes but i'd missed the editing window.

Each to their own mate, and I appreciate the reasoned reply.

I saw the original post as a comment that excess monetary reward PRIOR to winning trophies and titles can be identified as demotivational in regard of ongoing pursuit of those trophies - in short, the players get so caught up with earning their wealth that they neglect the pursuit of the trophies.

Your reply did not address that as far as I could see, but seemed to respond to an accusation that had not been made: something along the lines of the players aren't good enough because they don't try enough. Whilst this is certainly a topic that is current, it wasn't the thrust of the OP's argument (IMHO).

I haven't taken umbrage at the use of the word tory - why would I? I am a tory, I vote tory and I've never pretended otherwise. Perfectly happy to leave the politics out of the conversation, if you are too.

I simply don't think the point you were making was a response to the original post.

 

[chrismpw]

Has anyone seen that documentary? It's a fairly old one now, the premise is young Premier League footballers earning so much money that they don't have hunger to win silverware.

This that was a problem with youth is just a problem, those young kids are now in their prime and they're millionaires and most of them don't even have a runners up medal never mind a winners medal.

I feel players earn so much that the ones no who win stuff are the ones who have it between the ears to try and be the best. That Fulham result hurt, i felt bad for the club, embarrassed for the club and it wasn't a game in isolation there have been a lot of them.

Players earn more than their trophy cabinets suggest they should. I follow Everton because I love Everton FC. Why should we continue to put money through gates/shops/memberships etc when we are seeing nothi9ng in return and i mean nothing. We have got to a stage where the same teams win every competition. When I started watching football, teams like Dundee Utd or Red Star Belgrade had a chance in Europe.

Football needs to change because 99% of fans don't get value for money.

Sorry rant over, check out the documentary if you haven't already and how do people feel about players commitment these days?

I don't need to see a documentary or read anything to know that money has utterly ruined football. Even if we won the league or the European runners up league - I'd be happy, sure, but it wouldn't mean the same to me as it did in the 80s because back then it was a sports competition. Now its just a marketing product.

At least I have my memories.

 

[Lanolin]

Each to their own mate, and I appreciate the reasoned reply.

I saw the original post as a comment that excess monetary reward PRIOR to winning trophies and titles can be identified as demotivational in regard of ongoing pursuit of those trophies - in short, the players get so caught up with earning their wealth that they neglect the pursuit of the trophies.

Your reply did not address that as far as I could see, but seemed to respond to an accusation that had not been made: something along the lines of the players aren't good enough because they don't try enough. Whilst this is certainly a topic that is current, it wasn't the thrust of the OP's argument (IMHO).

I haven't taken umbrage at the use of the word tory - why would I? I am a tory, I vote tory and I've never pretended otherwise. Perfectly happy to leave the politics out of the conversation, if you are too.

I simply don't think the point you were making was a response to the original post.

Fair enough, I just assumed you were taking umbrage at something other than the point being made because it's quite clear to me that my reply addresses the point. The OP says 'I feel players earn so much that the ones no (sic) who win stuff are the ones who have it between the ears to try and be the best' ie, players who try hard win, players who don't, don't. I'm not entirely sure what else he could mean by that sentence? And as I said, it clearly is what he meant, because he confirmed it after I replied. That's what my reply was addressing.

EDIT - Quite why he's now liking all your posts saying I misunderstood when he's already confirmed himself that I didn't, is anyone's guess.