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Northern Ireland majority catholic?

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A United Ireland won't work. If it does ever happen, it's going to turn Northern Ireland into Chechnya/Dagestan and you'd have guerrilla insurgency every other week. The biggest issue with the Catholics and the Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is that they don't practice true Catholicism; it's all a huge facade. Sinn Fein want to legalize abortion, pretty much allow all the LGBTQ rights an so on, and this is never going down well with the Protestants, who tend to be far more socially conservative.
Sinn Fein in the North are pretty conservative on issues like abortion. You haven't a notion of what you're talking about.
 
In terms of the fiscal costs of reunification I think the fears are overstated. We've seen a large increae in cross border trade simce the protocol, that will onky increase.

The US and EU, both of whom are partners in the GFA will also part fund any transition. The UK will also.

The size of the task isnt really comparable to German reunification both in terms of population and lmthe sheer chasms in living standards at the time.

The real hard part is deciding on what a new Ireland will look like. I find people who dont want to look at that and do the real hard yards fall back on the cost of reunification.
 
Genuine question mate - why not? What's your perspective?

Mixture of upbringing and just perception I suppose. We are all products to some extent of our upbringing.

I feel Northern Irish and that's what I instinctively would tell someone if they ask me where I'm from. I support Northern Ireland, I support an English football team. It's hard to explain, it's just how I feel. I do think we are economically better off too.
 

I honestly dont think the UK can be bothered with the hassle of Northern Ireland/North Ireland, and probably havent been in years.
They played the DUP like a fiddle to get crucial parliamentary votes then threw them down the well the minute they had their use.
Ive always thought UI was just around the corner, but that was just based on the majority population argument and wasnt taking into account whether or not the South actually wanted the North?

On a side note, would be surprised if we had any posters on here aligning to SF that have spent the past week demonising the recently deceased over hushing up paedophilia? ?
 
Oh that's interesting (at least to me). What's happened there?

Putting gaelic on the same footing as say Welsh has always been a basic requirement for nationalism. The unionists have identified this as a great battle cause and served to delay and delay long agreed legislation. Compromises have been given to the extent of formal recognition for "Ulster Scots" to achieve a sense of parity for what unionists consider their own language - even though it is, to many people, more of a regional dialect like Scouse than a language. Never mind that both are enshrined in legislation that's been delayed and delayed. Reason? Unionists recognise it as one more step in the road to equality and, once there, reunification is a short step away.
 
Putting gaelic on the same footing as say Welsh has always been a basic requirement for nationalism. The unionists have identified this as a great battle cause and served to delay and delay long agreed legislation. Compromises have been given to the extent of formal recognition for "Ulster Scots" to achieve a sense of parity for what unionists consider their own language - even though it is, to many people, more of a regional dialect like Scouse than a language. Never mind that both are enshrined in legislation that's been delayed and delayed. Reason? Unionists recognise it as one more step in the road to parity and, once there, reunification is a short step away.

I personally don't know anyone who is particularly bothered about formal, legal standing for Ulster Scots. And I say that as someone who has regularly been asked if they are Scottish due to my accent....
 
Mixture of upbringing and just perception I suppose. We are all products to some extent of our upbringing.

I feel Northern Irish and that's what I instinctively would tell someone if they ask me where I'm from. I support Northern Ireland, I support an English football team. It's hard to explain, it's just how I feel. I do think we are economically better off too.

Fair play. I guess from an outside perspective it's hard to see how you've ended up with such headbangers as political representatives - taking the DUP as a case in point - from a reasonable base. Brexit was the icing on the cake in terms of shooting themselves in the foot.

Although my whole background is from the south I spent a good 10 years working in some of the most unionist of communities with great guys. Never had an issue and found actually a majority all disappeared in July say to avoid the mad season.

I can though understand that for a community that was clearly targeted by the IRA in the 70s and 80s that seeing former members now in power is hard to stomach.

My view is one more generation and it will be a lot easier for everyone. For example personally I found seeing Paisley as First Minister a very hard watch. I don't mind Beattie, I met Mike Nesbitt a few times and had a lot of time for him and actually used to be quite friendly with Basil McCrea.
 
Eh? The political end game is defined in the Good Friday Agreement. Nationalists had to endure the RUC for decades so a new police force will be acceptable to all.

Economics? Ireland is a lot better placed than Truss' Britain..
Surely it would have to go to a vote of the people North and South of the border, not just the North?
It might be better at the moment but would an all Ireland not severely impact the Republic's economy?
 

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