Nothing has changed.

[CerberusFX]

We spent money at the beginning of the transfer window, massive change there, small baby step but a change non the less.

Anyway though, get your wallet out Mr Moshiri please.

 

[CerberusFX]

Net spend really isn't the issue. We could have a negative net spend every season and so long as the team improved and closed the gap on the elusive top 6 then who cares?

The problem is though, that it's likely that our wage bill has increased significantly - yet our overall team actually looks somewhat worse. Not only that, our best players don't seem to give a flying one about the extra money and want to leave/have left anyway because ultimately it's peanuts comparatively to the others anyway.

Pickford, Keane and Sandro were good acquisitions. This was a good use of a chunk of the Lukaku money, it's just missing the key ingredient... Lukakus replacement.

Signing some young lads for the future is always great to see, especially when you're ousting elite teams to obtain them.

But for me, not sorting key areas of the squad that were largely obvious and pushing out decent squad players despite supposedly wanting to challenge on all fronts, is absolutely not ok.

Strikers? Wingers? Centre back? Left back?

We're an injury to Pickford away from playing Stekelenburg every game. As we have seemingly pushed out Robles for no reason whatsoever.

We are an injury to Keane away from playing Jags and Williams every game.

We are an injury to Rooney away from having the least potent attacking force in the entire league... if we aren't already, that is.

Injury to Baines and we have no left back?

You catch my drift surely.

We were an injury to Lukaku away from having to play Kone etc prior to his departure, and we got very very lucky the lad stayed fit for almost the entire few seasons he had with us. I'm not so sure we'll get that lucky this time, when all things considered if it's going well we are definitely looking at 3 games a week etc.

When I read it like that, it's fairly grim and depressing. I thought everything was going swimmingly but we have missed out what was really needed haven't we.

 

[Abraders]

When I read it like that, it's fairly grim and depressing. I thought everything was going swimmingly but we have missed out what was really needed haven't we.

We have mate.

I take no pride in it, just laying it out how it really is.

We have til tonight to try and rectify it.

 

[Lanolin]

But who are these strikers who can score the 15 guaranteed? And would they come to a team who don't have CL? On paper it all seems so easy,but you just have to look at why Lukaku left us.

See this is the kind of thing I was talking about in my last post. The post you're replying to didn't mention 'guarantees', they said somebody who 'scores around 15'. The change of the wording insinuates that people are asking for something ridiculous when in reality they're just saying get a someone pretty decent in.

Nobody is saying that there are thousands and thousands of strikers out there who would be perfect for us, but it's very difficult to accept that there isn't one. If there really isn't, we should have told Lukaku he was just going to have to deal with it and play for us for another year. We're not a charity, saying 'ah but he wanted to go' doesn't cut it if you're not able to replace him.

 

[davids]

See this is the kind of thing I was talking about in my last post. The post you're replying to didn't mention 'guarantees', they said somebody who 'scores around 15'. The change of the wording insinuates that people are asking for something ridiculous when in reality they're just saying get a someone pretty decent in.

Nobody is saying that there are thousands and thousands of strikers out there who would be perfect for us, but it's very difficult to accept that there isn't one. If there really isn't, we should have told Lukaku he was just going to have to deal with it and play for us for another year. We're not a charity, saying 'ah but he wanted to go' doesn't cut it if you're not able to replace him.

So we make him stay,he sulks and we lose (allegedly) 90m? Koeman could have given the club a list of half a dozen CFs but our lack of CL football (see R Lukaku) will always make signing proven top players difficult.So what do you suggest the club does?

 

[tirion]

So we make him stay,he sulks and we lose (allegedly) 90m? Koeman could have given the club a list of half a dozen CFs but our lack of CL football (see R Lukaku) will always make signing proven top players difficult.So what do you suggest the club does?

grow a pair and say no deal, similar to what Liverpool have done with Coutinho, but they couldn't have done that because there wouldn't have been any money to spend. same old same old

 

[nsno-chris]

Everything has changed.

We used to struggle getting the Paul Dickovs of this world in, now its Olivier Girouds we struggle getting in

Up Everton

 

[n01efc]

We can't make teams sell their players to us, and some players won't join us because we aren't established in the so called elite.

 

[Lanolin]

So we make him stay,he sulks and we lose (allegedly) 90m? Koeman could have given the club a list of half a dozen CFs but our lack of CL football (see R Lukaku) will always make signing proven top players difficult.So what do you suggest the club does?

Well other clubs are apparently doing what many people claim is impossible by telling their wantaway players to stay - Coutinho, Van Dijk, Sanchez, Sakho, Mahrez etc. Even we did it with Stones and now seemingly Barkley. What good is £90m if you can't spend it? There's no point saying you got a dead good deal but your squad got worse because nobody else would come. Not a good deal then is it? If Oxlade Chamberlain is worth £35m with 1 year left on his contract we'd have probably got £50m+ for Lukaku next year anyway so to say we lost £90m is disingenuous.

That's all beside the point though. The issue is that we should be able to adequately replace him (and hopefully we still will), I was simply saying that if you've identified reasons why we wouldn't be able to, surely the club should have too, and so not agreed to sell him to the detriment of the squad.

Again, despite me pulling you up on it in the last post, you're twisting the wording to make it sound like people are looking for something they're not. You mention 'proven, top players' and talk about the lure of the CL after I said 'someone decent'. Not quite the same is it? The Bentekes, Dembeles, Kings, Batshuayis of the world don't laugh when Everton come calling. That's just players we've been linked with in Britain. I refuse to believe that for the second season running everyone we've tried to sign has gone 'nah I'm only interested in CL'. People's excuse last year was that we'd set our sights to high, so why didn't we learn? Why have we continued to look at players who aren't interested in coming if that's the case?

 

[tirion]

What good is £90m if you can't spend it

the point is we have spent it, the Vlasic deal will be announced at 8 to tickle Jim Whites belly and keep him on board the Moshiri bandwagon, this will also detract from the fact we haven't bought a striker, Kenwright & co are still very much in charge of the club, Moshiri simply a means of improving our credit rating

 

[Jamiednm]

Moshiri's project is the stadium, to add shed loads of value to us and sell us on, in my opinion.

Transfer-wise this Summer, I think we've made an overall improvement, but not one that will threaten the teams above us in any way.

 

[BlueLlama]

If we score more than 2 goals in a game I'll be amazed

 

[Danny Rand]

If we score more than 2 goals in a game I'll be amazed

Liverpool 7-3 Everton

 

[davids]

Well other clubs are apparently doing what many people claim is impossible by telling their wantaway players to stay - Coutinho, Van Dijk, Sanchez, Sakho, Mahrez etc. Even we did it with Stones and now seemingly Barkley. What good is £90m if you can't spend it? There's no point saying you got a dead good deal but your squad got worse because nobody else would come. Not a good deal then is it? If Oxlade Chamberlain is worth £35m with 1 year left on his contract we'd have probably got £50m+ for Lukaku next year anyway so to say we lost £90m is disingenuous.

That's all beside the point though. The issue is that we should be able to adequately replace him (and hopefully we still will), I was simply saying that if you've identified reasons why we wouldn't be able to, surely the club should have too, and so not agreed to sell him to the detriment of the squad.

Again, despite me pulling you up on it in the last post, you're twisting the wording to make it sound like people are looking for something they're not. You mention 'proven, top players' and talk about the lure of the CL after I said 'someone decent'. Not quite the same is it? The Bentekes, Dembeles, Kings, Batshuayis of the world don't laugh when Everton come calling. That's just players we've been linked with in Britain. I refuse to believe that for the second season running everyone we've tried to sign has gone 'nah I'm only interested in CL'. People's excuse last year was that we'd set our sights to high, so why didn't we learn? Why have we continued to look at players who aren't interested in coming if that's the case?

I think we need to see how the Coutinho, Van Dijk, Sanchez, Sakho, Mahrez's of this world play for the teams who have said 'no deal" over the course of the season, before passing any judgments as to how wise an action it is Van Dijk's situation isn't looking good training with the U23s,and as I'm typing Sakho has just gone to Palace.

 

[Lanolin]

I think we need to see how the Coutinho, Van Dijk, Sanchez, Sakho, Mahrez's of this world play for the teams who have said 'no deal" over the course of the season, before passing any judgments as to how wise an action it is Van Dijk's situation isn't looking good training with the U23s,and as I'm typing Sakho has just gone to Palace.

So we're ignoring the crux of the point to try and pick holes in the 'worst case scenario' aspect of it. Sounds about right.