Oscar Pistorius trial discussion

[TheFinnFan]

ridiculous.

 

[Goat]

[video=youtube;DSfjtdnUsls]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfjtdnUsls[/video]

I heard he went Home and played this.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Im sure Pistorius marries Knox now and they get a child who actually will be a spawn of satan

 

[sheeds]

lol, what's cringeworthy is you blatantly defending the man & then hiding behind supposed 'impartiality' when questioned on it Brennan.

Pistorius denies murder, but admits firing the gun 4 times that killed his girlfriend. 4 shots aimed at someone is nothing less than an attempt to kill & therefore murder, even if he thought it was an intruder, would firing 4 shots at him, without warning, whilst he was trapped in the confines of his en-suite bog, be acceptable behaviour?

As for your last sentence, don't put words in my mouth thanks all the same, but do you honestly believe that if Adeyemi Bopato was stood in that dock accused of the exact same crime, that 'prison overcrowding' would have been wheeled out as a reason for bail, or that there there'd have been the same view on there being 'exceptional circumstances'?

I've got my opinions on pistorious and his actions and what I think of some of his claims however as has been said that's why we have trials, we don't convict people based on tweets m soundbites or journo's opinions and those factors impact on both defence and prosecution 'supporters'

As for his actions had it been a burglar I'm no expert on south Africa but I travel there quite a lot and I'm pretty confident he would not be convicted nor probably even charged with murder or a similar offence if he'd shot and killed a burglar in his bathroom.

 

[maddison]

Honestly mate i wouldn't say he's 'unlucky at best' either although i know what you mean.
He would be 'guilty of manslaughter' at least if he was in England i think.
Although it may prove he was lying if its proven he had his false legs on, it wouldn't prove he never murdered her if its proven he never had them on. The police shouldn't even be arguing over the drugs because its not really relevant to the charge what they are at this stage.
all just opinions obviously mate.

It was a joke mate. Im sure he would be convicted of manslaughter at least anywhere in G.B.

I'm pretty certain that in the UK he'd be done for murder. You're not allowed to go about killing people over here, even burglars.

Bail is only ever granted in SA for murder cases, under 'exceptional' circumstances.

I can only conclude that 'excpetional' in this case, is the fact that he's a white National icon, with a very healthy bank balance.

For shame.

He's white and has money, that must qualify as exceptional in SA

lol, what's cringeworthy is you blatantly defending the man & then hiding behind supposed 'impartiality' when questioned on it Brennan.

Pistorius denies murder, but admits firing the gun 4 times that killed his girlfriend. 4 shots aimed at someone is nothing less than an attempt to kill & therefore murder, even if he thought it was an intruder, would firing 4 shots at him, without warning, whilst he was trapped in the confines of his en-suite bog, be acceptable behaviour?

As for your last sentence, don't put words in my mouth thanks all the same, but do you honestly believe that if Adeyemi Bopato was stood in that dock accused of the exact same crime, that 'prison overcrowding' would have been wheeled out as a reason for bail, or that there there'd have been the same view on there being 'exceptional circumstances'?

This. Agree with that

How can it be doubted that he committed murder?

He shot four times at somebody from close distance without giving them a chance to identify themselves or come out without being killed. He wasn't threatened, he didn't see anybody, he had no reason to believe he was going to come to any danger other than he "heard something in the bathroom".

Throw away the key.

Exactly. If he doesn't go down for this, he'll be slammed by the world media where ever he goes. His career is over, and rightly so.

I've got my opinions on pistorious and his actions and what I think of some of his claims however as has been said that's why we have trials, we don't convict people based on tweets m soundbites or journo's opinions and those factors impact on both defence and prosecution 'supporters'

As for his actions had it been a burglar I'm no expert on south Africa but I travel there quite a lot and I'm pretty confident he would not be convicted nor probably even charged with murder or a similar offence if he'd shot and killed a burglar in his bathroom.

Sadly that shows what's blatantly still wrong with the country, and how cheaply they value life. I'd hazard a guess that most, if not all burglars are of a particular colour. Shocking system of so called justice out there.

 

[bluejock]

Might as well save the cost of a trial, a group of people on the internet have reached a verdict and decided the dentence already.

 

[Kurt.]

Something about going out on a limb.

 

[sheeds]

Sadly that shows what's blatantly still wrong with the country, and how cheaply they value life. I'd hazard a guess that most, if not all burglars are of a particular colour. Shocking system of so called justice out there.

To my limited knowledge not massively different to certain states in the US but thats been a free country a hell of a lot longer that RSA. After years of a minority controlling the masses the law changed and there have certainly been issues with crime but it's still the shinning example around the world for how to recover and move on from minority control.

I'm a big fan of the country and the kicking it regularly gets (intensified by this story ) irritates me a bit , you'll have noticed that despite all the warnings and scare stories there wasn't mass murder committed during the world cup , it was one of the safest in recent years and I was there for it.

On the issues with the judiciary it seems from my reading and basic knowledge that they are considered he best in the continent and as impressive as there is about (with the obvious exceptions ) with a reputation for independent and reasoned decision making . the police well that's a different story but it is basically a completely new service than it was not too many years ago

 

[maddison]

To my limited knowledge not massively different to certain states in the US but thats been a free country a hell of a lot longer that RSA. After years of a minority controlling the masses the law changed and there have certainly been issues with crime but it's still the shinning example around the world for how to recover and move on from minority control.

I'm a big fan of the country and the kicking it regularly gets (intensified by this story ) irritates me a bit , you'll have noticed that despite all the warnings and scare stories there wasn't mass murder committed during the world cup , it was one of the safest in recent years and I was there or it.

On the issues with the judiciary it seems from my reading and basic knowledge that they are considered he best in the continent and as impressive as there is about (with the obvious exceptions ) with a reputation for independent and reasoned decision making . the police well that's a different story but it is basically a completely new service than it was not to many years ago

Fair point

 

[bignev23]

Thank you for admitting to your earlier ignorance......this is great Britain mate, not England.

I'd be jealous if i was welsh mate.

 

[Brennan]

When they have a trial and every single bit of evidence is presented and considered by a judge far more qualified than us, then it'll be known what he definitely did or didn't do. Until then it's all speculation.

I think he's guilty as sin. I don't know this for certain though. Huge difference.

Is right.

Read the above please Foot Long.

 

[Brennan]

lol, what's cringeworthy is you blatantly defending the man & then hiding behind supposed 'impartiality' when questioned on it Brennan.

Pistorius denies murder, but admits firing the gun 4 times that killed his girlfriend. 4 shots aimed at someone is nothing less than an attempt to kill & therefore murder, even if he thought it was an intruder, would firing 4 shots at him, without warning, whilst he was trapped in the confines of his en-suite bog, be acceptable behaviour?

As for your last sentence, don't put words in my mouth thanks all the same, but do you honestly believe that if Adeyemi Bopato was stood in that dock accused of the exact same crime, that 'prison overcrowding' would have been wheeled out as a reason for bail, or that there there'd have been the same view on there being 'exceptional circumstances'?

I ain't defending the man, i'm defending his right to a fair trial. Not hard to understand. (apparently)

 

[Kurt.]

It all depends what price is put on freedom.

 

[Brennan]

Might as well save the cost of a trial, a group of people on the internet have reached a verdict and decided the dentence already.

They've agreed the sentence as well mate x

I bet some of those calling for Pistorius' head probably said Jo Yeates' landlord was guilty too. Thank God they're not running the justice system.

 

[Kurt.]

String him up and use him like a piniatta thingy until he spills his filthy guts everywhere.