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Oumar Niasse

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@Papa Shango

"Its got nothing to do with us!"

It does, we are all stakeholders.

Why spend all that money for next season when you're struggling at the time? He was our third most expensive signing of all time.
 
TheCount said:
@Papa Shango

"Its got nothing to do with us!"

It does, we are all stakeholders.

Why spend all that money for next season when you're struggling at the time? He was our third most expensive signing of all time.
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We are not stakeholders, we are consumers. What happens in terms of how things are done have nothing to do with us.

Maybe he thought he could get something out of him during that season too? I dont know! We are not the first and certainly wont be the last to get a transfer wrong yet for some reason its classed as a dodgy deal? Prices have gone up massively. 13.5M doesnt get you much these days regardless of where it ranks in our transfer spending.
 

evertonarntwe said:
course not pal, my point is though any decent keeper saves his goal against Liverpool, watch it again and tell me it was a good finish... he rolled it along the ground straight at mignolet, never even dinked it or went either side literally straight at the keeper

as I said though, hope he does well so we get some money but if he goes the rets of the season without scoring it wouldn't surprise me
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It went in the back of the net, that ticks all the good finish boxes for me.

If you look again he waits for him to move and then puts it through his legs. Its a very smart calm finish.
 
evertonarntwe said:
course not pal, my point is though any decent keeper saves his goal against Liverpool, watch it again and tell me it was a good finish... he rolled it along the ground straight at mignolet, never even dinked it or went either side literally straight at the keeper

as I said though, hope he does well so we get some money but if he goes the rets of the season without scoring it wouldn't surprise me
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People a said when he scored his first goal it was a fluke, now and has he has his second and still some doubt he has something. OK what he has is not good enough for Everton or a top 10 side, but he is at Hull. If they would of got him from Russia not us, there wouldnt be any issues anywhere about him.

His goal on Saturday, out of him and the keeper he looked by far the coolest and most likely to win in the moment, he is very relaxed, watch his interview he did after going to Hull and you can see that.
 
Papa Shango said:
It went in the back of the net, that ticks all the good finish boxes for me.

If you look again he waits for him to move and then puts it through his legs. Its a very smart calm finish.
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I get what you are saying I really do, a goal is a goal, it's black and white its simple. but I look at it like this...I personally think it was a horrible finish which should have been saved, and if he gets these sort of chances regularly he will not score many. you seen roms finishes on Saturday, 3 of them in the corner and a dink over the keeper. like I said give it a few more games if he still continues to score then fair enough on the lad, but don't judge him just yet on the goals he has scored
 
evertonarntwe said:
I get what you are saying I really do, a goal is a goal, it's black and white its simple. but I look at it like this...I personally think it was a horrible finish which should have been saved, and if he gets these sort of chances regularly he will not score many. you seen roms finishes on Saturday, 3 of them in the corner and a dink over the keeper. like I said give it a few more games if he still continues to score then fair enough on the lad, but don't judge him just yet on the goals he has scored
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Lukaku is a world class though (Or close to it, I think thats fair to say) so its not really fair to compare.

Niasse does seem to be able to score goals, if you look at most of his goals at Lokomotiv and indeed for the U23s they all seems to be badly hit or scruffy goals. He does it far too much for me for them to be lucky rubbish strikes. Yakubu used to do it all the time too.

Dont get me wrong I am not judging him either way, I still dont get how people are able to judge his ability one way or another, he does look to be fairly useful, if unorthodox, in front of goal though.
 
Papa Shango said:
We are not stakeholders, we are consumers. What happens in terms of how things are done have nothing to do with us.

Maybe he thought he could get something out of him during that season too? I dont know! We are not the first and certainly wont be the last to get a transfer wrong yet for some reason its classed as a dodgy deal? Prices have gone up massively. 13.5M doesnt get you much these days regardless of where it ranks in our transfer spending.
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Stakeholder: "a person with an interest or concern in something, especially a business."

I didn't say it was a dodgy deal. I said dubious. The whole thing stinks.

- At the time we had extremely limited resources.

- Anyone looking at the lad play can tell how bad he is. As soon as he got to finch farm the rumours started, "He's non-league level". Etc.

- We risked potentially £20m+ because he had a good record in a poxy Russian league and a half decent YouTube video?

The massive waste of resources has been less damaging thanks to Moshiri. Another few more deals of this calibre with Kenwright in charge could have been the end of us as a Premier League side.
 

Martinez was on Goals On Sunday and I waited for the inevitable question from Kamara about Niasse. Martinez said that Niasse's main attributes were the ability to get in behind defences and to be in the right place at the right time, and this was why he was successful at Locomotiv. There have been lots of successful strikers in professional football who have had the ability to do nothing more than look clumsy and score goals. Niasse is another one.
 
Steve Wigan said:
Martinez was on Goals On Sunday and I waited for the inevitable question from Kamara about Niasse. Martinez said that Niasse's main attributes were the ability to get in behind defences and to be in the right place at the right time, and this was why he was successful at Locomotiv. There have been lots of successful strikers in professional football who have had the ability to do nothing more than look clumsy and score goals. Niasse is another one.
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It's true this, Gary Linaker did that a lot. Watching him at Hull and on YouTube at times he has been were he needed to be, the ball coming over or not is another issue, I really hate to agree with Martinez but he is right about that.
I guess that isn't what Ronald wants from a striker, but feed Oumar and he will score!!!!
 
Papa Shango said:
We are not stakeholders, we are consumers. What happens in terms of how things are done have nothing to do with us.

Maybe he thought he could get something out of him during that season too? I dont know! We are not the first and certainly wont be the last to get a transfer wrong yet for some reason its classed as a dodgy deal? Prices have gone up massively. 13.5M doesnt get you much these days regardless of where it ranks in our transfer spending.
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Consumers are stakeholders. A stakeholder is someone with a vested interest. That's us.
 
I just dont get how people thi k it was a dodgy deal lol. bad, yes. Desperate, also yes. Its clear to see we were struggling so Martinez threw money at a striker and it backfired and ended up being a flop. Hardly the first Prem team to waste money, nor will be the last. I think it grates people so severely as we havent had many expensive flops
 

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