I don't want things to stink. That's the point I'm trying to make. I want open and honest discourse (where appropriate) between the club and fanbase. I genuinely believe we are heading in the right direction in that regard.
Well I am sure we all would like that but they dont have to do anything of the sort and I dont think we are as bad as people make out in that regard. We could be a lot, lot worse.
We've been sell to buy for about 20 years. We've been in debt to Vibrac and Philip Green and co. have been milking the place dry. In what world is that unlimited resources? It stinks.
I know we have. At that point in time though that wasnt the case. Most of our issues had been resolved and we had extra cash coming in. 13M is really not a big amount these days. We dont half live in the past with things like this.
I know, we don't know what scouting took place. If any. I would very much like to know exactly what happened here.
Fair enough, but you have no right to be given this information. Why would they do that? He is still a saleable asset at the club. Do you want the club to come out and say "no we didnt do any scouing on him, hes rubbish isnt he lolz! Give us money!" Of course thats not going to happen. Maybe if and when we get rid of him but whilst he is a player at the club that would be utter madness.
I didn't say he was non league level, I said they were the rumours coming out of the club.
Well the rumour mongers are wrong. He has had a career elsewhere, its not like he just appeared out of nowhere.
I've seen enough of him play to know he's not good enough.
No I agree he probably isnt. But that's nothing new in football. Some people were acting like he had just wandered in off the streets and decided to play football. That's not the case. By the looks of it he may be a half decent lower end premier league player. We obviously overpaid for him based on his ability but we havnt bought in a sunday league player for mad money either.
I don't mind taking a shot at a player and things not working out. It happens. I do mind when £20m+ is risked on a deal that looks absolutely ridiculous. Then, we have to put up with lies about a wrist injury. No one came out and said, ok, I've sanctioned this deal ... so and so scouted him for X amount of games ... we liked his record and took a punt etc. At least now we know who makes the decisions and who is accountable.
Im assuming the 20M is with wages? Seriously though what clubs do what you mention here? Why should they? Its fairly obvious what happened, he was a player going through a purple patch who the club obviously thought could do a job, then he came over with an injury (where are you getting the lies thing from? thats just guess work from you) and seemingly some personal issues and it just escalated from there. Again, all clubs have had to deal with that at some point.
I genuinely wish the lad well, this is not his fault. I celebrated his goal with everyone else at Goodison with a good ammount of laughter though, because it's funny someone so bad scored the winner against the scum.
You neglected to concede the stakeholder point. Don't worry about it
