2017/18 Oumar Niasse

[AsiaAsia82]

I just hope our very competent board are preparing other similar examples from other games to draw comparisons. This has been a calculated conspiracy to harm the mighty Oumar, our only striker...

 

[royalblue66]

Will always be known as a cheat, fact.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

It was a dive, you'd all be raging if it happened against us you bunch of kopites, nothing wrong with him being punished as long as they follow the precedent accordingly

I agree mate, I would have been fuming if it had been the other way around, and I mentioned it earlier about the FA now setting a precedent about players going down with minimal contact, the problem I have though is consistency, there has been plenty of incidents prior to Niasse's, but for some reason the FA decided not to act.

I actually think it's good that the FA are acting on all the diving, but it will only work (and be fair) as I say, if the consistency is there, no matter who a player plays for.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Yeah, but if the Ref was half decent he'd have seen it and given him a yellow card.
The ref didn't see it so he'll more then likely end up with a two match ban because the Ref was incompetent.

I know the answer is "Because we're Everton Lad", but why do we have to pay the price for incompetent officials?
Surely the Ref should get the two match ban instead for missing it?

Spot on.

 

[evertonarntwe]

boss fans aren't they, imagine that goes against us in the derby youse would all throwing digs at your kids and round housing your light bulbs

but it's for us and its the arl NAAAA DEFFO PEN THAT M8

fair enough he won a pen for it and we'll no doubt get one given against us to even it up, but saying it's not a dive is embarrassing. if that happens on a sunday league pitch he gets vollied for being a blurt

 

[bicycleheader]

Isn't it down to referees to call these accurately in the moment though? Isn't that what they're trained for??

Taking retrospective action because a referee felt that they were 'tricked' by a player in a moment is farcical. It completely shifts accountability away from them when they're already protected by the FA enough.

What's next? are players going to be punished for scoring goals when they were clearly offside just because the officials didn't catch it at the time? would you class that as 'deceiving' the officials by playing on??

That's nothing to do with your ''there's contact, end of" comment though, which wasn't correct.

No, I wouldn't class players scoring offside goals as deceiving the officials. That's an odd point.

Many many football fans feel cheating needed to be cleaned up in the game.

They apparently don't select instances because a ref felt they were tricked. They do a general review of incidents and recommend incidents where charges should made, and then the larger review panel comes into play unless the player automatically accepts the charge.

For me, and this thread right now is a great example of it, the biggest problem with cheating is the culture of fans wasting energy on shouting about what other clubs players do. It's not on, no matter what player does it.

 

[sageyefc]

boss fans aren't they, imagine that goes against us in the derby youse would all throwing digs at your kids and round housing your light bulbs

but it's for us and its the arl NAAAA DEFFO PEN THAT M8

fair enough he won a pen for it and we'll no doubt get one given against us to even it up, but saying it's not a dive is embarrassing. if that happens on a sunday league pitch he gets vollied for being a blurt

Are you accusing evertonians of being child abusers ?

 

[bicycleheader]

ethically speaking yes, but "contact" in any form has been used to discount diving before,

I don't think anyone is saying hes a saint here, but why is he the first sinner taken to task on it?

Why not?

 

[JLW]

It wasn't a dive. He received contact, went down which he is within his right to do, didn't appeal and won a penalty which got us back into the game. He also then scored himself to level it up when, again, we were losing. He's also been arguably one of our better, more hard-working players recently.

So, again, don't chat bollocks.

‘It wasn’t a dive he received contact’ So what!!!! A dive is putting yourself to the ground whether there was contact or not, which is exactly what he did.

Yes he won a pen and scored it but will be banned for a couple of games for ‘diving’ when we will need him, so was it worth it??

 

[Boss_Blue]

boss fans aren't they, imagine that goes against us in the derby youse would all throwing digs at your kids and round housing your light bulbs

Excuse me?

Pipe down you utter mutant.

 

[chicoazul]

But the punishment for Diving is a yellow. Fair enough, stick a yellow on his record.
How can they justify a 2 match ban because the Ref didn't see it?

The rules have changed this year for retrospective action. Come on lar let’s be all kopitey over it. He simulated.

 

[bicycleheader]

It wasn't a dive. He received contact, went down which he is within his right to do, didn't appeal and won a penalty which got us back into the game. He also then scored himself to level it up when, again, we were losing. He's also been arguably one of our better, more hard-working players in recent times.

So yeah, let's give him a severe punishment for that.

Again... don't chat bollocks.

again with this contact thing....he gets a tap on the shoulder he is "entitled" to go down?

I think you are imagining a football rule in your head, and are now complaining and accusing other posters of 'chatting blx' based on that imaginary rule

 

[chicoazul]

YEH BU WARABAR DEM

No lads. What about Niasse. He simulated to get a pen and we would be fuming if it happened to us.

 

[chicoazul]

Surely the Wrestling Thread would be a much more suitable place to discuss this horrific assault on Niasse

Fair enough I look forward to all those offside Goals against us being retrospectively wiped of the record as well.

Doesn’t work like that man. Come on let’s not be so salty.

 

[St James the Less]

Ridiculous decision - just wonder how much Clattenburgs comments influenced the descision.
Everton should gather videos of other similar incidents which didnt render suspension and file it to FA together with an appeal.

My thoughts exactly. See it every time I watch football on telly. So why now and why us?