Oh man. As someone in a healthcare profession, I can't even begin to tell you how f'd up it is.
Folks can be so short sighted
Folks can be so short sighted
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I had to turn it off. It was too disturbing.
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
Our health care system is what happens when something just grows on it's own with no rationality or forethought...it just springs uphazardly and then you get entrenched interests who don't want change and you end up nibbling at the edges...
Employer based healthcare is shockingly dumb. So when you lose your job, not only have you lost your job, which is bad enough, you've lost your healthcare. Dumb. Medicare for all I say, but what do I know, I'm just a raving lefty to some.
Employer based healthcare is shockingly dumb. So when you lose your job, not only have you lost your job, which is bad enough, you've lost your healthcare. Dumb. Medicare for all I say, but what do I know, I'm just a raving lefty to some.
I am always laughing at the mentalists trying to label anyone who wants socialised healthcare as a communist. You couldn't make it up. Everyone benefits ffs.
What a shame, thus ever was, to have politics being detrimental to the people.
What a shame, thus ever was, to have politics being detrimental to the people.
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BigBlueBalls
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I thought american healthcare was like scrubsillusion shattered.
Seems its more like House, only instead of House being a lowly doctor, he is making racist, perverse, penny pinching policy.
KevO
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I'd like to know what you guys are listening to. A few points though, if someone goes to a hospital here, they MUST be treated, no matter if they can pay for it or not. The illusion that people who can't pay don't get healthcare baffles me and I think it is some sort of European hobby to sensationalize and exaggerate about U.S. issues in your press.
I'm all for creating a payment system for everybody, just the payment system NOT the complete healthcare system, as with all Government bureaucracies they are run terribly and the end product sucks beyond belief (I've been treated in a Canadian hospital for a broken wrist, I know, it took 20 hours). But I would like something where services are charged to some sort of public system. There's got to be some sort of median for healthcare, but it's hard to come up with one.
I'm all for creating a payment system for everybody, just the payment system NOT the complete healthcare system, as with all Government bureaucracies they are run terribly and the end product sucks beyond belief (I've been treated in a Canadian hospital for a broken wrist, I know, it took 20 hours). But I would like something where services are charged to some sort of public system. There's got to be some sort of median for healthcare, but it's hard to come up with one.
neil999
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i still think we can be proud of the nhs here
linglong
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Till its mostly in private hands yes we can.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
It was depressing viewing. America is so f*cking ace in some ways but, really, I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Why the situation when no Republican candidate would say the hypothetical coma guy should be treated, then?
You seem to be spouting the party line, here. Government bureaucracy....blah...blah....waiting lists..blah........capitalist efficiency....blah...blah...
I'd say any onlooker from Europe would rather their slightly imperfect system to your deeply flawed one. And for the record, my wife had a quite horrific eye injury a few years ago which has left her disfigured and blind in one eye - The exemplary and expert treatment and care she got from the NHS literally had me wiping tears from my eyes. The National Health Service is a tremendous invention.
KevO
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That's truly good to hear. But I still don't see why some report seems to be exaggerating (I haven't seen what people here are talking about, but by their reaction I can make a pretty good guess), and I also think it's impossible to compare the UK's situation with the US's, apples to oranges really, for one I don't think you guys have to provide for 15 million illegal residents either, who also get free health care. It's like that homeless children number someone posted earlier, I bet the report failed to mention that over 90% of them are not US citizens. Still it's certainly not something to be proud of, but people work hard to try and solve those issues everyday, but how can it be a simple solution if the kids in question are not even documented in the system?
KevO
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Party line? What? I'm registered independent, I wouldn't join the Republican or Democratic parties ever. As for the rest of what you had to say, see my post above.
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