JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
If he was taken off guard and is not used to being asked questions it would have been quite natural to reply
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..those blokes operate in a different world, I was surprised he responded unless he was expecting it. Saying that, I thought it was ok and probably indicated he had nothing to hide.
D1ck0
Player Valuation: £225k
Really? I just think it's logical... 'oh, they wanna be top 6.... right, lets look at this a sec.... so they'll be wanting a new lukaku then.... 'was certainly an opp. For the discerning footy oligarch or 5 to collaberate to leave Koeman with a decapitated team. The other poss. If you are right is that Walsh is inept. I see what you mean about my specificity in that post, it was based on the 'Giroud in the building' thing and Vlasic being told by Koeman that 'this was Costa's shirt'. So yeh a bit dot joiny. Maybe I'm wrong on the details but it looks like a transfer vito with the impression of no vito until as late as possible.
Strikes me as more likely than koeman setting up for 'success' with no attacking threat....
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I was thinking the exact opposite!!! He will have known what the allegations were and had a response prepared. It always looks better if you answer questions in situations like that. If you don't there is an assumption that you have something to hide.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's being disingenuous.
There isn't just the claim that there are connections between those organisations at boardroom level. The claim is that Bridgewater are owned by Usmanov and that this is the body charged with overseeing the transaction between Usmanov and Moshiri. The clear implication is that due diligence wasn't ever going to be forensic to pick up who exactly possesses the cash that buys Everton shares...and the fact that Bridgewaters is also the agent for TBH further complicates matters.
There's the basis for an investigation there whether we like it or not.
Dont kill the messenger when Everton are clearly mixed up with some very dodgy people.
I suspect there'll be more evidence to come. Very rarely will there not be a second tranche of info withheld to pile on the pressure for an official inquiry.
We need to be setting aside this bravado of "nothing to see here lads, Panorama's a joke lads". It doesn't nothing to make this pretty damaging affair to go away. It's the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la la". We are seeking to get this stadium off the ground and the club is looking very unstable on and off the pitch. This is serious stuff.
To be honest Dave I honestly can't see what the fuss is about.
So Usmanov may have gifted a share of red and white holdings to Moshiri.. once that happened Moshiri owned it and could do what he liked with those shares. He then sold them back to Usmanov.... and then used that money to buy Everton. What is actually wrong? It was his to do with as he pleased. Usmanov wanted that share holding because he wanted to put more pressure on Kronke.
Imo this gift nonsense is a red herring. They have been well known business partners for over a decade not exactly new information is it?
But there's nothing damaging here. Literally nothing.
Sure, I agree Moshiri is not the messiah loads seemed to think he was and is basically "Foreign Kenwright" at this point, but in terms of this 'investigation' there's been nothing disclosed whatsoever that wasn't already public knowledge.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
lol
Read that bit back to yourself mate.
If that was happening nat Liverpool we'd be on the floor pissing ourselves at the obvious chicanery going on.
Come on, we're all blues here. We all KNOW what the score is and who actually/ultimately that cash belongs to and who, therefore, have a control over this club.
We've been for years before effectively controlled by Phillip Green and most would have accepted that, but for some reason most aren't now willing to accept this set up.
It is what it is.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's exposed as a tea boy. He's an employee of Usmanov left holding the shares of the club for him.
That's damaging for us (that wider public knowledge of the situation) because investors out there aren't going to see Moshiri as a credible force and they'll know who ultimately they're getting into bed with if they expose their funds to the club and how much he's on the Establishment's radar.
This is a disastrous development. Let's not try and wish the implications of this away by questioning whether it's sanctionable or not. That;s hardly the issue...at least right now anyway.
Load of fuss over nothing. There is I think a document showing Moshiri actually paid for the shares as well. So yes it's a red herring.
If they were not business partners for over a decade would this even be an issue? Probably not. Not saying it doesn't look a bit suspect but nowhere near the levels some are suggesting.
To be honest I wish Usmanov was actually in control but he isn't and more than likely never will be.
bluejohn66
Player Valuation: £15m
Think this is more serious than what we think !! Apart from the commercial damage that this will inevitably bring, it could put the dampners on Usmanov taking over at some point ?
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Stadium investors. They'll run a mile.
Camboselecta
Player Valuation: £1.5m
well there goes the new stadium! haha. But dont worry we can get Big Sam in to drain the swamp!
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