Pat Van Den Hauwe or Leighton Baines

[Gilbert..]

….this is what I don’t really get with his reputation, I just don’t remember him clogging anybody. I was at West Brom when he got sent-off for shoulder charging the winger off the pitch but you’d never see him go over the top on an opposition player.

The psycho tag was lots to do with off the pitch hard man image. Gray and Sharp would wind him up. I’ve actually just come in from being in the players tunnel at Goodison and the weird thing I remembered was him wanting to sort the big player Luton had at the time but it was only because his mates were winding him up.

Did he actually get many red cards for us, I don’t even know?

Sent off in the mass brawl at QPR. I think Andy Gray started it. Van Den Hauwe had a punch up with their no 9. Both got red.

 

[jazzy]

Baines every day of the week.

He would have been superb in Pat's 80s title winning team.

One of the very few players since then who could have forced their way into that side.

Kanchelskis for Trevor Steven ? Possibly but I loved Steven.

 

[Iana]

Van den Hauwe for me.

Miles better defender as a left back and a good centre back in the 85/86 season when needed.

 

[Acrobat]

Pat better defender and can play centre back .
Better footballer than he was given credit for he just wasn't a thug.
Liked Baines but would have Pat. all day long

This

 

[cocklord]

You must all forgetting about Nuno Valente.

 

[bcblue1878]

…no, he was a proper hard case. It was a big coloured lad, I’m sure his name will come to me. Apparently Sharp and Gray were winding him up about this Luton player and it kicked off in the tunnel.

Either Brian Stein or Ricky Hill (?), I think Hill was bigger than Stein so possibly him?

 

[Dutch Toffee]

Would have Pejic above Baines as well.
Class player , hard as nails and brilliant with Davies thomas,
what a combination that was with Latch in the middle.
Only for not having a goalkeeper worth the name they would have won something that team.
Baines will get more votes as more people on here have seen him.

That's exactly my reasoning (Baines over Van Den Hauwe) behind it. Although I tried to follow Everton as closely as possible from abroad, it wasn't like these days, where you can pretty much see all matches without too much hassle. MOTD, BBC Grandstand and Final Score on Saturday, The Big Match Live on SSVC TV, newspapers and English footy mags where heaven sent back then.

 

[edge]

Either Brian Stein or Ricky Hill (?), I think Hill was bigger than Stein so possibly him?

They had a big lad up front African name don't ask me to spell it, began with N
Think they had a Mitchell thomas as well.

 

[Double Negative]

Ray Wilson was just getting past his best when he joined us, but better left back than the pair of them - His England internationals prove that ......back then, contract wise it was hard to leave a 2nd division club like Huddlesfield where he started as a left-winger converted into a world-class left back ....

He regretted signing a long deal with them before joining us as a great left back defensively brilliant & great at overlapping too .... he was an immaculate left back ..... Baines the next best ......

He meant Ian Wilson…

 

[Gerard_Francis]

Despite the red mist, psycho Pat for me. Much better defender imo.
Anyway he's my avatar, have to back him

 

[davek]

I remember this when I remember Baines:

...We're 3-1 up on aggregate in this semi-final and City are flapping. Fernandinho has a hit and hope shot 25 yards out and Baines turns his back on it from roughly 6/7 yards away. The ball hits his leg and spirals over a stranded Robles. Then we're right up against it.

Baines takes the lion's share of the blame that night for denying us a cup final.

3 minutes into this...

 

[Simo]

Let's not forget baines 2 x free-kicks away at Wham... Was behind that goal. No Idea how I got tickets tbh, not a chance now

 

[The binman chronicles]

In this current team we need attacking flair and someone who can take a free kick. Just imagine the Baines-Ndiaye partnership blossoming. Sorry Pat.

 

[jazzy]

There was a misconception that because Baines was so good going forward that he couldn't defend , he could .

The only thing against Baines defensively was that he wasn't the tallest or particularly good in the air and often lost aerial challenges.

Pat definitely won in that area.

 

[mahermi1]

Baines every day of the week.

He would have been superb in Pat's 80s title winning team.

One of the very few players since then who could have forced their way into that side.

Kanchelskis for Trevor Steven ? Possibly but I loved Steven.

Yeah I was thinking of doing a thread for the best team you have saw in your lifetime thread and one of the conundrums was Kanchelskis or Trevor Steven, Kanchelskis was an out and out attacker, who had lightening pace and was deadly in front of goal, don't think he ever defended. Trev was a tricky winger, great skill, quick with an eye for a goal, who was a great team player. Who would you pick ?
Well Southall in goal, no question, Gary Stevens at right back probably, but we had Tommy Wright, Jon Gidman, even Seamus, Henry Knewton wasn't bad either. Left back, never saw Wilson so can't pick him, between Pat Van Den Hauwe or Bainsey. Centre halves gone for Ratcliffe and Labone, midfield simply Ball, Harvey and Kendall. Left wing, Morrissey was excellent, but Sheedy for me. Beardsley and Lineker up top.
Team: 1. Southall, 2. Stevens, 3. Van Den Hauwe, 4. Ratcliffe, 5. Labone, 6. Harvey, 7. Stevens, 8. Ball, 9. Lineker, 10. Beardsley, 11.Sheedy.