everton2004
Player Valuation: £35m
Koeman for me - purely because he has experience in the Prem - I wouldn't be disappointed with De Boer (far from it) but would be worried about his inexperience in the English game. Just not Moyes. Or O'Neill.
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You say not Moyes or O'Neil, yet Koeman hasnt done any better than either of those 2 names, infact, hes done worse than both so far.
No I agree, you need to be a good manager of players, as @eternal_defiance has pointed out here too, but Löw might fail as a coach too, and we have no idea who he wants as backroom staff either...I said it on the other thread, Dual: Löw's record with Stuttgart is better than anything Everton have managed in the Prem-era. But yeah, he did fail in a big way with other clubs.
Re: the national team, it's not enough to have good-to-great players, you have to be able to coach them. See also Everton in the Martinez-era
I dunno, imo it's a bit more risky than a league-type coach, if that makes sense? I'd give him a chance obviously and, of course, won't even try to belittle his achievements as a manager or anything like that, but still...
Plus re: Stuttgart - even there he had an amazing trio of midfielders (the magic triangle or something, Holy Trinity type of things) who were absolutely complete players. Not saying it's not an achievement what he did with them, but after that he failed massively. I'd say we need either a solid manager with great backroom staff, or a solid coach who is also a good manager (we have plenty of 'potential' players), hence I'd like Frank over Koeman.
dholliday
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I understand where you're coming from, but for me I've seen enough of Löw as a coach to know he'd be very exciting for us.
Low is an utter trumpet, thankfully hes not even on our radar.
dholliday
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a trumpet who gets his team to win important games and happens to be on our radar too...
eternal_defiance
Player Valuation: £8m
so looks like Koeman won't even get Southampton into Europe, Bilic's West Ham will.
Koeman has not won anything for what 8 years? While De Boer won trophies as recently as 12 months ago.
2) De Boer/Cocu (Cocu has not even been mentioned in the media/bookies but I see these two as equals)
3) Bilic (can't see him jumping ship, he's more impressive than Koeman, but not a consideration it seems with Cocu)
4) Villas-Boas (not being mentioned)
5) Pellegrini
6) Pereira (interviewed last time, his English must have improved and he has won 2 titles in 3 years in two different countries since Kenwright interviewed him, so why not consider him now?)
7) / not on my list) Koeman
we'll probably end up with Moyes/Rangick as Director of Football and Koeman as manager
Koeman has not won anything for what 8 years? While De Boer won trophies as recently as 12 months ago.
1) Mourinho
3) Bilic (can't see him jumping ship, he's more impressive than Koeman, but not a consideration it seems with Cocu)
4) Villas-Boas (not being mentioned)
5) Pellegrini
7) / not on my list) Koeman
we'll probably end up with Moyes/Rangick as Director of Football and Koeman as manager
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Franks for me, if Koeman and Lee come as a package no chance.
A vote for McKoeman is a vote for this man, use your vote wisely.
The answer to the question is Koeman.
Would not be disappointed if Frank de Boer came here either.
Would not be disappointed if Frank de Boer came here either.
Koeman, without question.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Van Gaal.
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