Poll: Sam Allardyce - yes or no?

[Eggs]

Wasn't saying Unsworth was doing that mate, but Koeman seemed to do it.

I don't like Holgate at cb myself mate, but when the options instead are Williams or Jagielka which either means we sit massively deep or alternatively give lots of space behind that they are unable to cover and leave us pretty much either under seige in a game or so easy to counter it's untrue, then i think why not partner Holgate with Keane and at least try to play a high line with players able to run faster than a tortoise.

..the high line is dependent on the opposition, Ste. Remembering Keane isn’t the swiftest but Holgate would certainly make a difference in the speed stakes. I’m ok with giving that pairing a run. Baines looks like the physicality of the league has caught up with him, without pace alongside we’ll always be exposed at anything played in behind him.

 

[Stanley Parker]

I was dead against it.

Having watched the footage with keys and gray. He talks sense.

Get back to basics. Don't concede and hit them with a set piece.

He'd sort us out.

Would they do this behind closed doors, or would we be required to pay to watch?

 

[Agent Blue]

We as a club won't progress until we increase our expectations. Tuchel is available and we want Fat Sam?

Everton that.

 

[bluestevon]

..the high line is dependent on the opposition, Ste. Remembering Keane isn’t the swiftest but Holgate would certainly make a difference in the speed stakes. I’m ok with giving that pairing a run. Baines looks like the physicality of the league has caught up with him, without pace alongside we’ll always be exposed at anything played in behind him.

Love Baines mate, but it's just clear that he his legs have just gone now, and whats more he knows it himself, which is why he never tries to go past and very rarely overlaps now - he's aware he won't be able to get close to being back in position should they break.

Saw an utterly embarrassing clip of Leicester's first goal yesterday, Williams and Jagielka basically doing dad jogs back, not even trying to bust a lung to get back involved.

 

[hullefc]

We are rudderless at the moment so I would bring Allardyce in with Unsworth as his assistant until the end of the season. We need to stop the rot pretty soon and I think Allardyce would give the players the focus they need.

 

[Eggs]

Love Baines mate, but it's just clear that he his legs have just gone now, and whats more he knows it himself, which is why he never tries to go past and very rarely overlaps now - he's aware he won't be able to get close to being back in position should they break.

Saw an utterly embarrassing clip of Leicester's first goal yesterday, Williams and Jagielka basically doing dad jogs back, not even trying to bust a lung to get back involved.

...Baines is a maestro of a footballer but I think this league is brutal and he can’t cope with the pace and power any more. I watched the first 60 mins in an airport bar so couldn’t fully analyse that first goal but it looked like Davies (first), Gueye (2nd) and Rooney (3rd) could’ve taken one for the team. Rooney did his best to get back but couldn’t, Lennon got himself alongside Vardy then lost him.

I suppose Gray demonstrated what we miss, the only potential we have to make that type of break is Lookman.

 

[mutley]

Big fat Sam is an Evertonian
big fat Sam is an Evertonian
big fat Sam is an Evertonian
Big fat Sam is an Evertonian

at least we;ll get a song out of it.

 

[kenada_blue]

People are panicking WAY too early and starting to jump on board for getting a fire-fighter type manager in, which basically writes off the next 2-3 seasons due to panicking about going down.

I'd go the opposite, the teams that do panic early and get that type of manager in are usually the ones that go down within a couple of years anyway

Bolton left in 2007 went down in 2008
Newcastle left in 2008 went down in 2009
Blackburn left in 2010 went down in 2012
West Ham still in the division
Sunderland left in 2016 went down in 2017
Palace left in 2017 went down in 2018?

By the end of this season 5 of the 6 clubs he will have managed will have likely been relegated within 2 years of him leaving the job, can point to it being because the clubs are a mess when they call him in, can also maybe suggest that whilst he gets results he does nothing to ensure the club is stronger when he leaves than when he came in.

BTW interesting little thing to point out, we are often said to be wanting to mirror spurs model etc, in 2008 Spurs sacked Ramos after 8 games and where on 2 points at the time, they finished the season in 8th.

The year before they sacked Jol after 10 games - and sat third from bottom with 7 points, they finished 11th that season.

They went for Redknapp, Villas-Boas, Sherwood and then Pocchetino after those two.

Great points made

 

[ritterefc]

I've said no - it's still early enough to get the right long term manager and "aim high" rather than just "get safe", but if we get nothing from the next 2 games, I'd start to panic a bit TBH and wouldn't be against it. Stupid time frame - i'm ok now but if we get nothing from watford and palace - teams we should be capable of beating i'm into full blown panic mode...

 

[Connor]

People are panicking WAY too early and starting to jump on board for getting a fire-fighter type manager in, which basically writes off the next 2-3 seasons due to panicking about going down.

I'd go the opposite, the teams that do panic early and get that type of manager in are usually the ones that go down within a couple of years anyway

Bolton left in 2007 went down in 2008
Newcastle left in 2008 went down in 2009
Blackburn left in 2010 went down in 2012
West Ham still in the division
Sunderland left in 2016 went down in 2017
Palace left in 2017 went down in 2018?

By the end of this season 5 of the 6 clubs he will have managed will have likely been relegated within 2 years of him leaving the job, can point to it being because the clubs are a mess when they call him in, can also maybe suggest that whilst he gets results he does nothing to ensure the club is stronger when he leaves than when he came in.

BTW interesting little thing to point out, we are often said to be wanting to mirror spurs model etc, in 2008 Spurs sacked Ramos after 8 games and where on 2 points at the time, they finished the season in 8th.

The year before they sacked Jol after 10 games - and sat third from bottom with 7 points, they finished 11th that season.

They went for Redknapp, Villas-Boas, Sherwood and then Pocchetino after those two.

I'm terrified Ste.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

Sam would solve our immediate problems but we can and should do much better.

 

[bluestevon]

I'm terrified Ste.

Don't be mate lol

compared to Walker, Smith and Johnsons time this is absolutely nothing to be worried about.

 

[Famous_Seamus]

 

[dublinbluenose]

Oh God it's nearly at 28% now. Je suis desole

 

[LiamG]

We are rudderless at the moment so I would bring Allardyce in with Unsworth as his assistant until the end of the season. We need to stop the rot pretty soon and I think Allardyce would give the players the focus they need.

If that's what we are going for we are going to need to reinforce the bench.

And that's not even considering when they bench Rooney.