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Poll: Sam Allardyce - yes or no?

Should Big Sam be appointed as Everton's next permenant manager?

  • Yes

    Votes: 263 23.8%

  • No

    Votes: 736 66.5%

  • Cheese on toast lid

    Votes: 48 4.3%

  • Allardyce for the rest of the season with Rhino as No.2

    Votes: 60 5.4%
  • Total voters
    1,107
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dead_soft said:
Ding ding ding. Here’s the if he was called Allardici stuff. He’s never struggled to get jobs. He messed up the England job. He quite Palace. He struggled when he had proper money. His methods were never revolutionary, he just saw what was happening abroad and applied them and well done to him for that. The game has caught up and wildly overtaken him. As it has done to British coaching overall
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We all know you need to be at one of the top 6 clubs to win stuff regularly. If British managers are never given the chance it's not suprising they don't win stuff very often.

I don't believe British coaching is miles behind other countries.

Martinez couldn't even get the players fit or train them how to defend. Koeman couldn't set up a team to have any tactical shape at all.

People need to judge managers on their own merits not the country they come from. It's ridiculous.

If British coaching was that far behind how did Alex Ferguson dominate foreign coaches for decades with their superior training methods?
 
It's disgusting that he's looking a very likely option. Another month or so of this and I'd be screaming for him.
 
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whiteshadow said:
We all know you need to be at one of the top 6 clubs to win stuff regularly. If British managers are never given the chance it's not suprising they don't win stuff very often.

I don't believe British coaching is miles behind other countries.

Martinez couldn't even get the players fit or train them how to defend. Koeman couldn't set up a team to have any tactical shape at all.

People need to judge managers on their own merits not the country they come from. It's ridiculous.

If British coaching was that far behind how did Alex Ferguson dominate foreign coaches for decades with their superior training methods?
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This isn’t about individuals. I don’t think I said anywhere that there are no bad foreign managers or that it was impossible for British managers to be good. You were saying that British managers aren’t given a fair crack of the whip. I am saying that there aren’t enough top level British managers for them to be given the chance. British football has for a long time now been behind other nations, it’s been less willing to innovate, less willing to change its basic structure. This seems to be changing, very slowly.
Why arent British managers being employed abroad? Or does every country in the world have the same bias?
 

dead_soft said:
This isn’t about individuals. I don’t think I said anywhere that there are no bad foreign managers or that it was impossible for British managers to be good. You were saying that British managers aren’t given a fair crack of the whip. I am saying that there aren’t enough top level British managers for them to be given the chance. British football has for a long time now been behind other nations, it’s been less willing to innovate, less willing to change its basic structure. This seems to be changing, very slowly.
Why arent British managers being employed abroad? Or does every country in the world have the same bias?
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I think the main reason is the language barrier.

Not that many British managers can speak other languages fluently while many foreign coaches are fluent in English. It's a huge obstacle for a manager no matter how sure you are of your own abilities.
 

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