Possible Director of Football

[ijjysmith]

If you want a good indication of how the DOF can positively influence the team then look at David Dein at Arsenal. (probably said this a few times now)

He would be going off and getting the players that were identified or Wenger wanted and paid the price they needed to pay to get them in. No suprise that it was the time Arsenal was last competitive in the league title wise. Wenger would umm and ahh over prices and players and dein basically just went and bought them over wenger's head and got him the players.

So essentially, we would have someone there who would get these deals done as it would be their job. If koeman decides a player would be key, the DOF would just go and get them, no messing about like previously here. If the DOF could also scout players like Monchi apparently controls then there is another bonus as it again takes the stress off the manager. Imagine i situation like at sevilla where the manager could tell the DOF what they wanted in the player and the DOF could just go out and buy the best possible player that they want. Need a tackling midfielder, consistent winger, striker who excels at holding the play up, centre half statistically strong in the air, these are the sorts of benefits the DOF can identify and bring.

Dein wasn't a Director of Football at Arsenal though i'm pretty sure.

 

[Ashtonian]

Dein wasn't a Director of Football at Arsenal though i'm pretty sure.

Not by official means no.

but he did a very similar job to one. Wenger just identified certain players to him, like wiltord for example. All the other management of that was done through dein.

According to my arsenal supporting dad anyway.

 

[ijjysmith]

Not by official means no.

but he did a very similar job to one. Wenger just identified certain players to him, like wiltord for example. All the other management of that was done through dein.

According to my arsenal supporting dad anyway.

Didn't think he was.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Not by official means no.

but he did a very similar job to one. Wenger just identified certain players to him, like wiltord for example. All the other management of that was done through dein.

According to my arsenal supporting dad anyway.

Dein was Vice Chairman at Arsenal.

His role wasn't to identify and rate players, his role was to sign the players that Wenger told him he wanted, together with developing the commercial side of the business - and he was very good at both aspects.

The role of DoF is completely different.

 

[Blake]

Not by official means no.

but he did a very similar job to one. Wenger just identified certain players to him, like wiltord for example. All the other management of that was done through dein.

According to my arsenal supporting dad anyway.

He may well of led the negotiations in terms of fees & wages for the board/club, but I don't think he was involved in the identification of players etc.

I think (who really knows) DoF role is more about overseeing the scouting. Maybe dealing with things like pre/post season tours etc. Working with the manager, but trying to take away a lot of the tasks that don't involve the day to day training and match preparation and leaving the manager to concentrate on that.

 

[Ashtonian]

Dein was Vice Chairman at Arsenal.

His role wasn't to identify and rate players, his role was to sign the players that Wenger told him he wanted, together with developing the commercial side of the business - and he was very good at both aspects.

The role of DoF is completely different.

He may well of led the negotiations in terms of fees & wages for the board/club, but I don't think he was involved in the identification of players etc.

I think (who really knows) DoF role is more about overseeing the scouting. Maybe dealing with things like pre/post season tours etc. Working with the manager, but trying to take away a lot of the tasks that don't involve the day to day training and match preparation and leaving the manager to concentrate on that.

I'll admit i'm not too clued up on arsenal much being a blue and all that, so i'm only going on what my old man told me.

If he is wide of the mark then fair enough, but the way he described it made it sound an awfully lot like the role.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I'll admit i'm not too clued up on arsenal much being a blue and all that, so i'm only going on what my old man told me.

If he is wide of the mark then fair enough, but the way he described it made it sound an awfully lot like the role.

He had a good working relationship with Wenger, but his role was nothing like what Monchi does at Sevilla for example.

 

[Moomin]

I'll admit i'm not too clued up on arsenal much being a blue and all that, so i'm only going on what my old man told me.

If he is wide of the mark then fair enough, but the way he described it made it sound an awfully lot like the role.

#vaping destroys your mind

 

[Ashtonian]

#vaping destroys your mind

my dad doesn't vape though....

 

[Moomin]

my dad doesn't vape though....

You were probably so high got talking to a WWE action figure and thought that was your dad.

 

[Ashtonian]

You were probably so high got talking to a WWE action figure and thought that was your dad.

Vaping also doesn't get you high whatsoever.

 

[Mogwai]

Vaping also doesn't get you high whatsoever.

My vape definitely does

 

[Bluebonic]

I think four out of the top six all had one last year.
Leicester,Spurs, City, Southampton.

Utd and Arsenal didn't.

Cheers mate, conclusive proof then I suppose! Hopefully we will get a top operator!

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Dein was Vice Chairman at Arsenal.

His role wasn't to identify and rate players, his role was to sign the players that Wenger told him he wanted, together with developing the commercial side of the business - and he was very good at both aspects.

The role of DoF is completely different.

You're right and wrong the director of football doesn't actually fit a set formula of what to follow, it follows the criteria The club that employs him or her to follow which is different at each club that has one


In the majority of cases in the UK clubs who have a dof employ the tactic of the manager and director of football drawing up a list of targets together which the manager will prioritise main targets ahead of others nd then the dof Will go out and sort out the deal

Added to that they also control the scouting reports of the scouts and the structure of the scouting system of the club and the scouting structure to provide help to the manager of the time whilst being a liaison to the board too

 

[The Esk]

The model I would deploy for a Director of Football would be a senior footballing person, sitting at board level whose tasks would include the following:

• Represent the club's footballing interests at board level
• Responsibility for all football related strategic planning
• Responsibility for all player transfers and contract negotiations
• Control over player research and non playing staff recruitment
• Advisory capacity over all non first team divisions within club
  
• Control over all sports science related matters
• Responsibility for all football related facilities
• Responsibility for all football related PR and media strategies

The relationship between DoF would be very close, each being aware that all the club does must be centred on the ability to perform and compete on the pitch.

The role of the football manager would be very much that of a head coach, meaning responsibility for and sole focus on:

• Team selection
• Team preparation
• Training & maintenance of fitness levels
• Technical development of first team members
• Tactics
• Injury prevention & management with sports scientists

Interestingly this model then allows the club to recruit a CEO who does not necessarily have a football background. The club can then recruit from a much wider talent pool focusing on commercial acumen, and operational and management excellence.