Postal Strike

[SuitsBlue]

Nope, [Poor language removed] hate it, but we had to make do as it is all we were given. I am not blaming the lads on the ground, but unlike them, we had no choice.

someone had a choice somewhere, instead of singling out the issue of bank/national holidays being the issue, perhaps consider where the army perform their duties compared to the FB.

fighting a war in afghanistan? be sure to ask for may day off, im sure they (the enemy) will agree to hold fire that day.

If the outdated goddesses are endangering life, and dont carry the necessary equipment, then how are they still in service? the government that own every rig in the country make too much money from selling off the slightly older systems. Take up with them that you hate old equipment - or is ot that other countries simply wont buy 50 year old goddesses, and who can blame them, the only people they can be palmed off on without action is.....

 

[chicoazul]

someone had a choice somewhere, instead of singling r countries simply wont buy 50 year old goddesses, and who can blame them, the only people they can be palmed off on without action is.....

....pikeys with bad teeth?

 

[SuitsBlue]

....pikeys with bad teeth?

its those inbred [Poor language removed] that are responsible for most fires.

 

[chicoazul]

*grabs pitch fork. To the caravan site*

 

[Rob]

Thanks for the reply blair.

I asked because my best mates dad is a fireman and he went on strike and just didn't go to work for like 2 weeks when he was supposed to be protecting people.

IMO any workers that provide an essential public service such as firemen, postal workers, doctors, nurses etc should NOT legally allowed to go on strike BUT should get paid and treated far far better.

 

[gordonjblair]

Thanks for the reply blair.

I asked because my best mates dad is a fireman and he went on strike and just didn't go to work for like 2 weeks when he was supposed to be protecting people.

IMO any workers that provide an essential public service such as firemen, postal workers, doctors, nurses etc should NOT legally allowed to go on strike BUT should get paid and treated far far better.

ah, but there's the rub, how do they ensure that good pay if they don't have the option to withdraw their labour?

 

[Rob]

Good point and if I knew the answer to that I would be a rich man

Where I used to work our bosses criticised us for working too slowly and saying we could do it twice as fast.
We invited 3 of them (as there was always 3 of us) to come down and do our jobs for us one night, good job we came in they were sweating cobs and couldn't breathe after half hour!

Needless to say, we never got bothered after that and even got a few extra breaks too!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

ah, but there's the rub, how do they ensure that good pay if they don't have the option to withdraw their labour?

Once again though, where does this perception of poor pay come from? Look around Europe, newly recruited French firefighters take home after tax just £730 per month. Irish ones take home under £1,000 per month. Even fire fighting Danes, who earn £1,327 per month, cannot match the basic pay of new recruits in the UK. German firefighters earn on average £16,401 per year. American firefighters start at much the same level ($32,000p/a). As it is Firefighters in Britain earn above the average UK salary and far above their counterparts around the world.

When there isn't a market to determine wages you get situations like this but compared both to other workers in Britain and firefighters around the world it would seem that UK firefighters have very good pay.

 

[SuitsBlue]

well as you have brough pay comparison into it....

price of living in france?
price of living in ireland?
price of living in denmark?
price of living in germany?

the situation in london is that public workers cant aford to live there.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Again, I don't understand why this obsession with public workers. Their salaries are higher than the national average, so NO workers can afford to live in London. This issue of 'key workers' is a real kick in the teeth for people that do vital work but happen to be in the private sector.

Anyway, you've asked for a cost of living stat so here we are, courtesy of the Economist Intelligence Unit:

A more recent survey has found that:

As observers see London challenging New York as the world's financial centre, the city is proving itself in other ways by overtaking Tokyo in cost of living terms. London (UK—4th), Copenhagen (Denmark—3rd) and Paris (France—2nd) have all overtaken Tokyo in the last 12 months to join Oslo (Norway—1st) as the world's most expensive destinations.

So Denmark and France certainly give us a run for our money there, and Frankfurt was 9th and Dublin came in 20th in that ranking so neither were far behind and certainly don't account for the greater wages evident for UK workers.

 

[SuitsBlue]

price of a can of beans in GB?
price of a can of beans in the czech republic?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

UK - 39p
Czech Republic - 1 goat

 

[chicoazul]

UK - 39p
Czech Republic - 1 goat

Post. Of. The. Day.

You read Freakonomics?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I have. It's a basic extension of game theory but put into more laymans terms and applied to every day examples.

 

[chicoazul]

Economics of such a manner really appeal to me. I have that kind of mind.

My motto is 'Who benefits?'.