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POTUS 2016

Push the button, pull the lever, who's it going to be?

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SerenityNigh said:
Hahahaha

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Laugh or be sent to 'special' summer camp. In winter. The girl and the guy in the blue shirt are in deep trouble.
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daylightrobber said:
For balance.......

http://www.reasonstovotetrump.com/
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abelard said:
why do Rubio supporters hate Trump so much? Isn't it just different brands of the same product? Or using a megaphone to express what was traditionally done with a dog-whistle? Or is it because Trump is too liberal?
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Trump's (if you believe what he's talking about) economic policy is a lot more similar to Sanders (seriously if you see Trump-Clinton a lot of unions and Bernie-bros are going to defect to Trump).
 

Rook said:
Trump's (if you believe what he's talking about) economic policy is a lot more similar to Sanders (seriously if you see Trump-Clinton a lot of unions and Bernie-bros are going to defect to Trump).
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I think so too to an extent (although "policy" is a charitable word in Trump's case, and I really, really doubt the so-called Bernie Bros will vote Trump. Abstain in limited cases at worst, and most of his supporters are hardly "bros"). From afar, the presumption is that it's the belligerence and gratuitous racism that makes him toxic to Republicans, but they pretty much all do this, and have been doing so with ever less subtle coded language since at least Nixon. Cruz and Rubio are even more extreme on, say, immigration. Trump is dangerously left-wing, in that he says he's not willing to "let people die on the streets," as it emerged yesterday, whereas the others want it implied that they, as true conservatives, would (Rubio even asked rhetorically whether this wasn't actually the Democratic debate after Trump's remarks).

Donald Trump, dangerous liberal. The others are desperately trying to outflank him from the right! That's what's actually terrifying about this. America, to paraphrase, is too important to be left to the Americans. (although one positive effect is that he could destroy the Republican Party by revealing that the base doesn't necessarily believe that the function of the state should be extracting from the poor to subsidize the rich. There's still the whole white supremacy thing, but... pick your battles).
 
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abelard said:
I think so too to an extent (although "policy" is a charitable word in Trump's case, and I really, really doubt the so-called Bernie Bros will vote Trump. Abstain in limited cases at worst, and most of his supporters are hardly "bros"). From afar, the presumption is that it's the belligerence and gratuitous racism that makes him toxic to Republicans, but they pretty much all do this, and have been doing so with ever less subtle coded language since at least Nixon. Cruz and Rubio are even more extreme on, say, immigration. Trump is dangerously left-wing, in that he says he's not willing to "let people die on the streets," as it emerged yesterday, whereas the others want it implied that they, as true conservatives, would (Rubio even asked rhetorically whether this wasn't actually the Democratic debate after Trump's remarks).

Donald Trump, dangerous liberal. The others are desperately trying to outflank him from the right! That's what's actually terrifying about this. America, to paraphrase, is too important to be left to the Americans. (although one positive effect is that he could destroy the Republican Party by revealing that the base doesn't necessarily believe that the function of the state should be extracting from the poor to subsidize the rich. There's still the whole white supremacy thing, but... pick your battles).
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You get the Bernie Bros if you come out for something like pot legalization/decriminalization, and say something like opening up the broadband lines to competetion. The unions already think they were sold out by the Clintons and Obama. You give them promises of infrastructure + going after free trade agreements and you got them (then PA, NY, NJ, Ohio, Ill and Michigan are in play). Hillary will try to attack him racism, torture and war and Trump is just throw it back at her and call her a hypocrite (and a lot of it will be justified).

The media narriative that that the Repulican party is at war with itself. That's true but its also happening in the democratic party. A large part of the base is feeling like they've been ignored and they have every right to. Have you seen any blacks/black leaders come out against Trump?

I used to think that Trump has no chance but now I think he's going to trounce her.
 
Just a question, who do people trust more between Trump and Clinton? Clinton gives me the impression that she is a complete creep.
 
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rascal said:
Just a question, who do people trust more between Trump and Clinton? Clinton gives me the impression that she is a complete creep.
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We don't know if Trump will screw us or not. With Hillary, the issue is not in doubt. She will, and then she will lie when or if she is called out on the evidence. She has ways to make evidence disappear. People, too.

Let me tell you all the good that they are doing with Clinton Global Initiative.

Oh, and just Google Bill Clinton Jeffrey Epstein for a few minutes of giggles.
 
Blue 1 said:
A racist demagogue endorsed by David Duke or a criminally insane Christian Zionist war-hawk. What a choice.
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which one is this? I'm actually serious... it applies to everyone in contention for the Republicans. And Ted Cruz would definitely take umbrage at not also being called a racist demagogue. Or did you mean Hilary?
 

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