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Everton boss David Moyes on BBC Radio 5 live: "For me watching the tournament, it is the players that we know who are shining. The Andres Iniesta's, Xabi Alonso's, Mario Gomez's. I don't think there is anybody at the moment who the scouts do not know about. You are always looking at young players [but] I don't know who we would buy anyway."

What?!
 
davek said:
Everton boss David Moyes on BBC Radio 5 live: "For me watching the tournament, it is the players that we know who are shining. The Andres Iniesta's, Xabi Alonso's, Mario Gomez's. I don't think there is anybody at the moment who the scouts do not know about. You are always looking at young players [but] I don't know who we would buy anyway."

What?!
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I heard him say those words live and he was joking about our finances not allowing him to sign anyone anyway.

The man should sell Fellaini for £20m-30m this summer (be a rip-off but we need to). Then he should buy Donovan Pienaar and a few others if he can and then stick to his random managerial skills to see us through a random and frustrating season where we eventually end up top 8.

That's the best it gets under Moyes and we all know it.

He, after ten years here, does not know what sort of team he wants to create. He has no idea to. He is predictable. The fact he didn't hold onto Pienaar says it all. Now he wants him back. It's stupid. He did the same thing with Stubbs.

You could give Moyes £100m he would not improve us on the field. He has no attacking creativity and is happy in his 65k a week finish 7th-15th role.
 
Pomp said:
I heard him say those words live and he was joking about our finances not allowing him to sign anyone anyway.

The man should sell Fellaini for £20m-30m this summer (be a rip-off but we need to). Then he should buy Donovan Pienaar and a few others if he can and then stick to his random managerial skills to see us through a random and frustrating season where we eventually end up top 8.

That's the best it gets under Moyes and we all know it.

He, after ten years here, does not know what sort of team he wants to create. He has no idea to. He is predictable. The fact he didn't hold onto Pienaar says it all. Now he wants him back. It's stupid. He did the same thing with Stubbs.

You could give Moyes £100m he would not improve us on the field. He has no attacking creativity and is happy in his 65k a week finish 7th-15th role.
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This goes to the heart of it. It's Groundhog Day. We all know what to expect on and off the field. Moyes gets his £3.5M wages and the board get to see out another year until a buyer turns up prepared to wear their ridiculious valuation of the club.

It's just abysmal.
 

Do people actually expect Moyes to name targets?
He tracks players for years - Fellaini and Jelavic for example. I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he says about transfers in whilst being a pundit, in all honesty.
 
billycopper said:
How many clubs actually have a director of football? If Rodgers can demand control at Liverpool then Moyes is within his rights to ask for it wherever he ends up. The excuse will always be that Moyes has won nothing because of the restraints at Everton. If you look at all the young managers mentioned (Rodgers, Lambert, Martinez, Di Matteo, Poyet, Laudrup etc) only the Chelsea man actually has silverware to his name.
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But that's not the point, the point was that its argued Moyes would only move to a club where hed have total control. He won't get it as the top clubs have owners that want a degree of control.

Spurs didn't have a director of football under redknapp. Rodgers will have to answer to the board with his transfers, saying he won't is naive. And frankly, I don't think the rs owners know what they're doing. Lambert the same at villa - you think learner would let Lambert boss him around after better managers like O'Neil and Houlier had fall outs with him.

But you're talking about small fry, Im speaking of the big clubs that Moyes is meant to be in the running for. At those clubs he will not get full control and IMO hasn't done enough to demand it when better managers don't have full control.

If that's the case, Moyes won't get any top job.
 

Pomp said:
Yeh mate. He's been asked so far hasn't he? Can you see him being asked about Spurs at half time, full time? I was right - he won't be asked about the Spurs connection because he's demanded it.
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kenada_blue said:
But that's not the point, the point was that its argued Moyes would only move to a club where hed have total control. He won't get it as the top clubs have owners that want a degree of control.

Spurs didn't have a director of football under redknapp. Rodgers will have to answer to the board with his transfers, saying he won't is naive. And frankly, I don't think the rs owners know what they're doing. Lambert the same at villa - you think learner would let Lambert boss him around after better managers like O'Neil and Houlier had fall outs with him.

But you're talking about small fry, Im speaking of the big clubs that Moyes is meant to be in the running for. At those clubs he will not get full control and IMO hasn't done enough to demand it when better managers don't have full control.

If that's the case, Moyes won't get any top job.
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I'm not so sure he would want total control. I don't think he'd want to go somewhere like Spurs or Chelsea if someone else was signing players and controlling the academy. I think he'd accept it more at United, but that's not the way they work anyway.

How have I got sucked into this discussion? I've never argued that Moyes would only go to a club where he would have total control. You make it sound like every owner-manager relationship is a power struggle. I'm sure that there harmonious partnerships where the manager is given what resources are available as well as a set of expectations and is then trusted to get on with the job. If DM was to go to Old Trafford and Ferguson steps up to the board (as expected) I would think that Alex would make himself available but not interfere with the day to day running of the club.
 
Pomp said:
They won't ask him about Spurs. It's been agreed! :(
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Andre Villas Boas is the new Tottenham managar, According to an Italian TV Channel he's agreed a 3 year contract. gazzetta dello sport is pretty reliable. Now on the spurs forums who seem to think it's true.
 
Chief Wiggum said:
Andre Villas Boas is the new Tottenham managar, According to an Italian TV Channel he's agreed a 3 year contract. gazzetta dello sport is pretty reliable. Now on the spurs forums who seem to think it's true.
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thought they would've got Benitez actually Chief, AVB could work out well for the totters though
 

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