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gwladysnight said:
Why are you posting the most outrageous things you can think of about a pandemic that is killing tens of thousands of our citizens. Using a pandemic as an excuse to score cheap points whilst posting dangerous idiotic disinformation is beneath contempt.

Please stick to posting your childish self professed trolling in topics that don't have the potential to makes things worse for our front line health workers.
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The last time i saw a strawman that big it was on fire and Edward Woodward was trapped inside.
 
catcherintherye said:
He just seemed to go a bit mad. I've never seen someone just start with nonsense, and then just double down with more nonsense. I mean as people know on here, I am more than happy to get into a long winded, laborious back and forth but even I was bored very early on. I'm still stunned and some of the stuff he's come out with. Who knows whats prompted it.

Footballs going ahead though, it looks as if I was wrong. Unless a major spanner gets thrown in. I suspect when we look back at this, we will do so with a sense of real shame, in the same way we now do at allowing Cheltenham to be played. I have little doubt about that. But I suppose money conquers all.
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I don't believe you! Catcher in being wrong shocker, who'd have thunk it.
 
Megatron said:
That’s not what he’s doing at all
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Of course that is what he is doing he is undermining Public Health England's strategy for minimizing deaths and finding a way out of this pandemic crisis. The strategy is very clear and backed by science. It is about testing, tracking and effectively quarantining people who have come in to sustained contact with someone who tests positive.

That is why it so stupid and so dangerous to criticise testing and quarantine just to score points against a rival. It is the kind of misinformation that has lead to Trump supporters refusing to wear masks because of Trump's action. You call the testing and self-isolating strategy stupid and suggest that people are charged after a public inquiry and you are undermining the science. What happens when someone is contacted by a tracer to say they should self-isolate should they follow that advice or should they listen to Catcher.

He says that testing and quarantine doesn't work and that social distancing does. So instead of self-isolating why not just go out and try and stay 2 metres apart. Then you have a contagious person going out and sneezing or coughing and spraying the virus everywhere just because some idiot on the internet is pushing an agenda. That is why a gullible person died from drinking pond cleaner.

Then we have him incorrectly saying that COVID-19 is passed from person to person through bodily fluids like sweat. Maybe he should please explain why NHS workers are taking invasive swabs from the upper respiratory tract when a simple sweat sample would do. Again dangerous disinformation because it leads to people wearing gloves which if not done properly can actually increase the spread of COVID-19.

Probably the worst thing though is Catcher criticising testing of Premier League footballers. Let's forget the hyperbole and look at the benefits of mass testing of asymptomatic people. The first thing is it removes contagious people who would otherwise spread the virus. In effect, it saves lives. Then those players can donate blood plasma, which saves lives. The data these tests provide gives vital information regarding how many asymptomatic cases we have. That will ultimately save lives.

The biggest thing though is that players who test positive will continue to be tested on a weekly basis. Which will give priceless data, regarding continued levels of immunity. I cannot stress how important that will be with regard to a vaccine.

If a football rivalry trumps the above then people need to get their priorities right.
 
catcherintherye said:
He just seemed to go a bit mad. I've never seen someone just start with nonsense, and then just double down with more nonsense. I mean as people know on here, I am more than happy to get into a long winded, laborious back and forth but even I was bored very early on. I'm still stunned and some of the stuff he's come out with. Who knows whats prompted it.

Footballs going ahead though, it looks as if I was wrong. Unless a major spanner gets thrown in. I suspect when we look back at this, we will do so with a sense of real shame, in the same way we now do at allowing Cheltenham to be played. I have little doubt about that. But I suppose money conquers all.
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you were wrong Catcher (although Spanner STILL remains a possibility IMHO); but you were nothing but reasoned in your arguements about why you didn't think it would / should go ahead. One nonsense of this thread has been the plucking of stats which are outdated, but correct when initially used as a way of childish mudslinging regarding the idea of restart
 

Mutzo Nutzo said:
Christ! Swarms of them...kopites everywhere. I'll be glad come Monday as they will have all slunk back under their stones. Why are they so obsessed with us?
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They have all came back out now the footy is about to kickoff again. Bad weirdos tho to come on an Everton forum.i honest don’t no what is wrong with these people. O wait I do they are kopites an we all no what kopites are.
 

number4. said:
you were wrong Catcher (although Spanner STILL remains a possibility IMHO); but you were nothing but reasoned in your arguements about why you didn't think it would / should go ahead. One nonsense of this thread has been the plucking of stats which are outdated, but correct when initially used as a way of childish mudslinging regarding the idea of restart
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Funnily enough I've just written an article and sent it off for the main page on why I was wrong. Essentially the peak came sooner than was initially reported (mainly down to have terrible this government is) and the bottom 6 buckled on their demand (which surprised me, as I think if they'd have stuck by it, they'd have probably got what they wanted).

We are all wrong though. What I can't get is when someone is wrong, like saying the ONS data showed a reduction in deaths on the 5 year average, then changing it to say they were just talking about the hospital setting- which was absolutely not the subject of the discussion. It's grasping at straws and a bit pathetic that the guy in question couldn't just hold his hand up and say he got it wrong. I mean he wants to discredit the ONS because the figures are much higher than the government ones, which is what it boils down too.
 

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