davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I wouldn't go that far like!
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I've been an Evertonian for more than 60 years, and I think that you are talking through your arse. Rivalry is
based on the likes of Benitez, Suarez, Hughes and Dalglish, and I'm proud to be a real Evertonian.
Did you like Peter Beardsley and Kevin Sheredy or where they also the devil incarnate??
Or is your rivalry think a load of…….??
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Some people dont deal in facts.
He's done nothing so far of note, but he should have all our support as he tries to get this shambles of a club back on the rails.
All those who oppose him want to keep the club a shambles; they'd have been chuffed with the galloot taking over and making clueless decision after clueless decision - because he's one of them. They hate change. They are, ultimalty, frightened people. They are the exact same lot who wanted Martinez out of Everton from the off because he represented change in a different way.
We have to embrace this, because the alternative is another go on the managerial merry-go-round...and the chances of Everton landing a decent one gets more and more unlikely with each time it goes around.
Death
I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
Ben10 never k'offed to Bilboa on us thats for sure.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
I'm very open minded me about Rafael, hoping with every ounce of my hope genes he does well for us and he's got my 100% support, as every other manager who's joined us since I was born has. I'm an Evertonian Duh
However this thread baffles me with folk hating the guy from the second he joined, and why? oh yes because he insulted us and said we were a small clublol
Good job I'm not as thin skinned after going to Annie Comp for 5 years, I'd be a trembling wreck.
Carlo had my support, he lost it though at the end of the season, not because of the shambles he caused against the likes of relegated Sheffield Utd, but because of his apparent lack of ability to change things around when needed, and also his demeanor after losses. It told me Everton meant nothing to him, and so it was proved. Glad he scurried off. Funny thing is the disciples would be sending hate mail to you if you questioned him at the time. The bloke was becoming an unhealthy untouchable.
Now Rafael? as I say I'm open minded. Nope not by any stretch of the imagination as a true blue did I want him.
However given the choice between him, Potter, Nunes,Howe and the fact we set our sights so low I was pleased when he signed.
So far the guy has spent peanuts and improved the strength in depth in a far more thought out and cost effective way than Silva or God Ancelotti had ever done.
Players seem to rate him too.
He's had 3 warm up games an won all 3, yep the 3rd one on pens but still a win, so how can we slate him?
Rafael never picked these games either, he just did what was asked of him.
They were warm ups too,not proper matches. No way do teams go flat out in these matches, we know (hopefully) Everton would easily batter last nights opponents if needed.
It's a bit like F1 teams in Friday practice, they don't go flat out for a lap record and purple sectors, they are just bedding themselves in and giving nothing away to the opposition. Martin Brundle calls it sand bagging. And it's just what we're doing now.
If Rafael shows the same degree of cluelesness Carlo showed in the next 18 months I'd make my mind up then, but not now.
Give him a break, he's far more likely to "want" to succeed than Ancelotti too.
Jeez he lives here, wants to stay and work here and I believe he'll do all he can to make it happen, he won't be swayed as easily as Carlo.
Early signs for me are positive and I think he'll get more from this squad than people think.
It'd be so sweet too for him to prove he can do it on both sides of the park.
Let's give him the undying support we gave Ancelotti as he was bombing, not kill the guy after his first loss
No.
Sweeneytoad
Player Valuation: £2.5m
The clubs been a shambles since we sacked Martinez, no real direction since and flip-flopping between managers. The man deserves a chance to succeed at the club and wanting him to fail doesn't make you a massive blue - it just makes you part of the problem. If he can come in, steady the ship, get rid of the [Poor language removed] and instill a hardworking mentality (something that's been missing for years) I'll more than happily support him.
You dont understand, the people who dont want Benitez arent massive blues, they are just humans with pride and dignity.
Fat, fat, fat.
Sack, sack, sack.
Lets go back to Carlo and his 1 shot on target football
The point there is valid as our problem arose by the dictatorship of Harry Catterick in the 1960’s / 70s. Great manager, never delegated a boot room of future apprentice managers like the other lot did, but he never trusted anyone ran his ideas solo made him ill in the end no one to pass his work load into safe hands with his mythology of management - HK must have learnt something of him plus big Joe as they won trophies ......
Maybe seeing his good ideas & making their own way with other clubs too ......
The other lot just had a boot room a succession of staff plus former players trained in waiting to step up into management to keep the continuity waiting in fact more ruthless than their creator Bill Shankly.......who shared his knowledge & delegated jobs for them ......
We have only won trophies of any meaning with ex players since the post-war period .... FACT-
Lets not.
Lets also not go back to Moyes, Silva, Koeman, Martinez or Fat Sam.
Repeating the mistakes of the past are not what we should do.
I quite like the classier ways of putting the FSW or swine-themed descriptions. Maybe we can even make it a sort of pet name for our new manager? Rotund iberian sommelier, like? Large, lovable even-toed ungulate?
RB has a very hard job probably only experienced guy we could get with our budget so far - OK he has been over the park - time will tell -
Its a hard job to take on for any new Manager - the last 3 were failures, he may join the club ......
Sweeneytoad
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Where's your pride and dignity then? A grown man arguing with strangers on the Internet acting like a child who doesn't get his own way.
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