2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[sageyefc]

Just had a thought, lads. Howe to lose a few more and Newcastle to come back in for Rafael?

???

And he can take them down for a second time

 

[kenada_blue]

And you think this is what RB does? Why doesn't it work then?

Benitez sticks his schlong on the table and says "mines bigger, come fight me".

That's not man management, that's authoritarianism

 

[Remember-the-name]

His last game on Thursday. Just get it over an done with.

 

[MACCA75]

Wayne Rooney has offered some insight into Alex Ferguson’s brilliant man-management skills. The legendary former Manchester United manager fell out with most of his best players – such as Roy Keane, Rooney, David Beckham, Paul Ince and Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Yet Rooney now realises that Ferguson called him out as a way to spark a reaction from other players. The Derby County player/coach understands that by criticising him, someone with thick skin and a strong personality, it sent a message to other, more laid-back characters in the Man United dressing room.

“His man-management is the best I’ve ever seen,” Rooney told the Guardian in an interview. “I always remember as a kid, every half-time arguing with him. Constantly. I remember thinking: ‘Why’s he keep having a go at me? There’s players far worse than what I’ve been. But the older you get, you realise why he’s doing it. If he [Sir Alex] spoke to Nani the way he spoke to me, he’d break down in tears. He [Nani] wouldn’t be able to come back out.”

Please don’t compare this bloke with Ferguson. Utterly embarrassing.

 

[luuk_deventer]

And you think this is what RB does? Why doesn't it work then?

I think that the act of him dropping one of the teams better players, Digne, who has been underperforming for a long time, is not necessarily a sign of arrogance or him asserting his dominance, as many managers use precisely this tactic.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

….one of the Benitez luvvies is @ForeverBlue92. He supports Benitez but would like Sean Dyche when Benitez is sacked, he’d also love Mourinho.

The same poster thinks the Everton fan base is vile and is very comfortable with us being relegated. It does make you wonder what the agenda of some is.

What agenda do you have against other Blues with a different opinion to yourself?

Dissapointing I must say - used to be one of the good guys was our Eggs.

 

[luuk_deventer]

Please don’t compare this bloke with Ferguson. Utterly embarrassing.

I'm not.

I'm saying that the very best do exactly this. So it is not a surprise to see other managers at all levels using it too.

 

[Runub]

We can't play exciting expansive football with this squad. May as well stick with Rafael is someone comes in wanting to do that cos we'll go straight down.

This is correct and we would be foolish to get in manager to try and play in a way not suited to the squad we have but we need someone who can get the best out of what we have and Benitez is just not doing that, on the contrary he is making an average squad look even worse than they are

 

[JimmyK]

I'm mearly saying that the idea of jumping from one football philosophy to another cos the last one didn't work, is a disaster with this squad because we've already done it.

The reason why Benitez was almost accepted as a manager is the idea that he'd make us "solid" "hard to beat" and his own words add "fight" to the team. Hes done the complete opposite.

However...those ideals are what we should strive for which began to happen under Carlo.

I wouldn't agree with that being the case under Ancelotti myself. I don't think either of the last 2 managers were a good match for what we need and unless we look for a different type of manager who is a better fit for what we need then I don't think we'll ever progress past what we have been for the past few years.

 

[Toffeepot]

I'm mearly saying that the idea of jumping from one football philosophy to another cos the last one didn't work, is a disaster with this squad because we've already done it.

The reason why Benitez was almost accepted as a manager is the idea that he'd make us "solid" "hard to beat" and his own words add "fight" to the team. Hes done the complete opposite.

However...those ideals are what we should strive for which began to happen under Carlo.

Maybe you are right, in terms of those ideals, but obviously Rafael not the man for it.
Lets take Palace as an example, young manager, fresh ideas, leader and great former player with good interpersonal skills
overhaul the squad and exciting to watch by comparison to Palce that were 'solid' 'hard to beat' and 'fought'
The new Palace will finish higher and fans will have more fun watching it.
Should we get Lampard(young manager, fresh ideas, leader and great former player with good interpersonal skills) and
stop renewing contracts for players simply existing, then we could do something similar
Gotta be better than this misery surely

 

[Eggs]

What's wrong with conflict? I would expect and hope for conflict inside an underperforming team.

The bit in bold we have no way of knowing.

….conflict with management in any workplace results in an unhappy workforce and inefficient business. There is division, they don’t pull in the same direction, they don’t respect the manager, they don’t play for the manager.

Its only my assumption, but I think there’ll be lots of whispers in that dressing room. I wouldn’t even be surprised if somebody is telling the Manager everything that is being said.

Thats what’s wrong with seeking conflict.

 

[Rock Hard Casey]

It's very difficult to believe that the people defending Benitez are Everton fans. I can understand people saying that to sack any manager again would be too much upheaval or cost too much but the people actually defending Benitez are surely not Everton fans.

I think some are scared to change managers yet again in case of further disruption. But they might just get even more scared if he isn't replaced soon!

 

[Cool_Blue]

Benitez sticks his schlong on the table and says "mines bigger, come fight me".

That's not man management, that's authoritarianism

Well that image has ruined my day

 

[Toffeepot]

I think that the act of him dropping one of the teams better players, Digne, who has been underperforming for a long time, is not necessarily a sign of arrogance or him asserting his dominance, as many managers use precisely this tactic.

This argument may carry more weight if he put him on the bench rather than drop him completely when we have no other Left back...It's careless, reckless management, simply to make a point

 

[luuk_deventer]

This argument may carry more weight if he put him on the bench rather than drop him completely when we have no other Left back...It's careless, reckless management, simply to make a point

Digne will come back in to the team and it will be interesting to see how he performs. If he plays well at Chelsea, then maybe the tactic worked and it will lift others in the team too.