2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[catcherintherye]

I don’t have a problem at all with that my friend.. you can’t go on a forum and like every poster.. it’s not how it works.. I also think some posters on here are full nobs too... what I do is either offer an alternative view point if I don’t agree with there post or simply ignore it and move to next post.. what I don’t do is get myself worked up, keep asking who they support or call for bannings etc.. that’s just silly..

If we all keep to forum rules and respect each other views then it’s all good...

But that respect surely has to include;
1) Not questioning what other Evertonians "deserve" on the basis that they ask a question you don't like
2) Not lying about other posters
3) Not falsifying information like Tottenham, Arsenal or Chelsea are bigger clubs than Everton.
4) Refusing to answer questions when challenged on above nonsense.

Nobody should be banned, and nobody should be called names for the above, but given your conduct I can understand why people would become frustrated with you. You can't do all of the above, and honestly expect people occasionally not to become frustrated- not everyone will be as patient as I am.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

You have no idea what I’ve been posting over the last few months. You are just a continuing and relentless poster of absolute guff.
I am way beyond your dim witted comprehension.
Go find someone else to try and debate with, I can’t get down to your level.

And you do make stuff up, quite regularly.

^^^^

The ravings of a narcissist who can't accept he's wrong.

 

[catcherintherye]

Safe as houses and here for as long as he wants to be. That's the inconvenient truth the derisory number of his opponents on here cant or wont accept.

As said before: Peak Pitchfork occurred a month ago after the derby. He has been strengthened ever since. He is now indisputably in charge of the club and carving out a transfer window which will be the first building blocks of his stay here.

I don't really see that Dave. The Liverpool defeat was awful as well, they are not some great team, they are achingly average and we made them look brilliant. It's understandable people were frustrated by that derby performance, if we were going to lose we should have got some revenge for their dirty tactics over the years and put a couple of them out of action as a result.

Aside from that, he is here for now. Moshiri is very temperamental, and he now has sole control. If transfers dont improve it will all be on him.

Under Moshiri it's quite simple, if you look in danger of being in the relegation zone you get sacked, if not he tends to persist. There is no reason any manager should have a squad that nearly got top 4 last season near the relegation zone, so he should be fine, but we have to see.

The interesting point will be whether he relents to fan pressure, as he did with Allardyce that season. I couldn't stand Allardyce, as on a personal level I can't stand Benitez, but I'm not sure sacking Allardyce did much for us, so I will be consistent and say I won't be calling for him to be sacked if we are top half.

The sad part is, as a club, from the owner down to the board, we are essentially accepting of an approach which says as long as we stay up it's ok. That's the saddest part of all of this and far sadder than just having Benitez as manager.

 

[Thomasc]

^^^^

The ravings of a narcissist who can't accept he's wrong.

What am I wrong about?

 

[banno]

What’s the money got to do with it if I showed which players left and which came in? Is it or is it not a better squad than last seasons?

Yes very slightly....but almost every other Clubs squad has improved for the better with actual money to spend. We will see when all injuries are back if our squad improvement has reached other teams squad improvements levels. I doubt it

 

[ChesterBlue]

New contract for Benitez would be an roc way to spoil mew years

 

[catcherintherye]

Yes a very big 'arguably' better squad. 1.7m to spend. If he had 40m - 50m to spend then I would say we should have a better squad and you would not have seen most of those signings. That is a hands tied behind your back transfer window. With the injuries to our better players he has to deal with other managerial/DoF failings. Tough task and it is obviously showing

Other managerial/DOF failings got us to a squad that got 59 points though. He brought 5 players in and we are going backwards. So if it was "failings" before, how would we describe going backwards from that position?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

What am I wrong about?

You have been attacking other posters who claimed Benitez wasn't in any danger of the sack being in 14th yet here you are today acknowledging yourself that he'll ony be sacked if he takes us into the bottom 3 spots.

You owe a few posters an apology imo.

 

[stretford blue]

Safe as houses and here for as long as he wants to be. That's the inconvenient truth the derisory number of his opponents on here cant or wont accept.

As said before: Peak Pitchfork occurred a month ago after the derby. He has been strengthened ever since. He is now indisputably in charge of the club and carving out a transfer window which will be the first building blocks of his stay here.

Moshiri has backed us into a corner if he was to sack benitez after seemingly giving all the power where could we go if he was to get sacked no dof all benitez's staff gone scouting system ripped up medical staff gone .
It's s*it or bust

 

[Nymzee]

Yes very slightly....but almost every other Clubs squad has improved for the better with actual money to spend. We will see when all injuries are back if our squad improvement has reached other teams squad improvements levels. I doubt it

Well from those we were comfortably ahead of last season whose squad has significantly improved? Even Leeds, ahead of us last year, are way below now.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Moshiri has backed us into a corner if he was to sack benitez after seemingly giving all the power where could we go if he was to get sacked no dof all benitez's staff gone scouting system ripped up medical staff gone .
It's s*it or bust

I'd imagine/hope that the manager has to do better in the second half of the season - but let us be honest, he could not do much worse.

I sincerely hope that things do improve because the tripe that Benitez has served us so far is just not acceptable. I do not want to imagine the anguish of being sucked into a relegation battle but if that happens Goodison will be as toxic as it has ever been and the wums anf kopite interlopers on here will make the EO a place to avoid, IMO.

 

[Thomasc]

You have been attacking other posters who claimed Benitez wasn't in any danger of the sack being in 14th yet here you are today acknowledging yourself that he'll ony be sacked if he takes us into the bottom 3 spots.

You owe a few posters an apology imo.

That’s about the standard of response I’d expect from you.
Ill thought out, no substance, absolute drivel.
Be gone fool.

 

[Marius57]

Well from those we were comfortably ahead of last season whose squad has significantly improved? Even Leeds, ahead of us last year, are way below now.

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5 clubs actually spent less than us because they made a positive net spend. (I've argued that benitez spent 157m at newcastle and been hounded out by several posters because he had a positive net spend so that meant he didn't spend any money supposedly so surely the same applies here?)

 

[Kev The Rat]

Let’s hope Kovac stays available for a few months yet

 

[bluenotred]

I'm so tired of this thread. I avoid for a few days and yet when I come back for a check in, it's the same people saying the same things over and over and over ad infinitum. I think I'll go back to the fit birds thread.