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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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stamullenblue said:
Problem here is not Rafael it’s the mess he has inherited. Whatever he does is wrong in some peoples eyes and he has been doing it with his hands tied behind his back. As it stands Moshri is giving him support and I thought as fans that’s what we should do . Apparently not !!
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Seriously have you seen us defend, well we don't. Wtf they do in training is anyone's guess. I gave him benefit of doubt when he arrived now I'm just pissed off going the game every week its grim
 
Ghost Rider said:
The question I suppose worth asking is what if benitez takes us down? Not literally as he would be sacked before that actually happened at the point of being too late.

I know the chances of it happening are minimal because we can't be worse than the teams below us.

But what if we get to that point? The board doubling down on him for so long despite the results. Wouldn't that destroy the fans link with the club itself given who they are backing?

I know it's fantasy talk because we won't go down but what if we did get to that point? Head under the water esq run in.
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We are only very lucky that Newcastle and Burnley are so bad this year, but Dyche and Burnley are strong and might get a run together, and Newcastle might buy their way out of of this. It's not 100% certain we won't get sucked in, and if we do, we don't have the fight and we definitely don't have the squad to come back straight away .
Can't believe I'm talking about this, but it doesn't mean I'm not a genuine supporter and lover of the club. it's ok to talk about it
 

stamullenblue said:
Problem here is not Rafael it’s the mess he has inherited. Whatever he does is wrong in some peoples eyes and he has been doing it with his hands tied behind his back. As it stands Moshri is giving him support and I thought as fans that’s what we should do . Apparently not !!
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There are a lot of things Benitez can’t be blamed for at this club but what he can be blamed for is the teams performances on the pitch (It’s his job)
He has players capable of performing better than what they are as proved last season.
He was brought in to get results with what we have (He’s not doing that)
He was brought in as a safe pair of hands to lead us to BMD on a limited budget (he’s not doing that is he?)
He was meant to make us solid and hard to beat (again failing)
He has got us on our worst run for decades
He has allowed Brighton and Watford to win at Goodison for the first time in their history
He brought Rondon to the club (worst player in my 45 years of supporting this club)
He has frozen out one of our best pkayers(Digne)
He has had Coleman playing left wing back when he can’t even play in his normal position properly

Honestly I could go back on and on but I think that’s enough to lay the blame at Benitez’s door for our current league position.

Sorry just to add this has nothing to do with who he’s managed previously.
 
LinekersLegs said:
Aye, he calls us “short sighted” but haven’t noticed him giving us a timeframe he feels is realistic that his friend can be expected to demonstrate any improvement in the squad in any aspect.

Heck if Benitez just sorted out our abysmal defending at set pieces it would be a start but presumably it is “short sighted” to expect that in within 6 months. Although I don’t recall it being this bad under Ancelotti so he’d also need to explain how long the period of “being worse so you can get better” would need to last too.
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It’s Allardyce with Shaun Custis all over again. Blue boy bill with Martin Samuel. Just shows how arrogant they are that think people can’t see through it.

If anything they are showing people what they are.
 
Ray Purchase said:
A major dilemma for the EFC hierarchy.

I would guess 90% of fans wishing to see him binned immediately.

The January transfer window now active, one player signed, and 2 or 3 others mooted to follow.

With Brands being history, presumably these are all being sanctioned by Benetiz.

I think they will now gamble by keeping him in position.

Given the squad, current tactics, and Benetiz himself, it will be touch and go if we survive.
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I'm sure Patterson was a Brands target....
 
For the people who use the atrociousness of our squad to defend him. This is truly painful and i blame Benitez for it, but I'm forced to tout fat Sam's achievements, we played truly wretched football but with a squad that had coco Martina regularly playing sometimes even out of position we finished 8th. So I'm not expecting champions league but we shouldn't be experiencing this shambolic farce of a performance. Oh god I feel sick I just defended sam got go vomit look what you've done to me Benitez
 

The point I am making is Moshri is clearly backing him and we can moan all we want but he is going nowhere for the time being and I just hope he turn things around and get some much needed points so we can regroup for next season when hopefully a lot of dross are either out of contract or sold .
 
Let’s have it right though, now it’s nothing to do with him being a kopite, now it’s his actual performance as a manager that’s the clear issue, trying to pin the fans wanting him gone on him being a former Liverpool manager is nonsense and you’re burying your head in the sand
 

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