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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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I'm not argueing mate.

Fact show he left Dalian bottom of that league . The line Dalian is one of their better clubs is from a piece i read at that time.


Newcastle fans ?
They are the most delusional fans in the country that follow a basket case club.

So no their opinions mean nothing to me.

If you think he's good enough for us thats fine & i respect that.
I dont think he's good enough.
But thats my standards NSNO.

Dalian were not one of the better teams in China. That's absolute bull [Poor language removed]. They had literally just been promoted when he got there. He helped them achieve their highest ever finish and kept them in the 1st division for 2 seasons in a row.

At Newcastle, he didn't relegate them and then leave them, he could have, but he didn't. He had plenty of offers that season including Southampton. He hung around which helped him get respect from the Geordies and many other fans, you think Mourinho would have fought it out in the Championship. No. He took them straight back up and kept them there for 2 seasons, establishing them as a mid table Premier league side.
 

If you love Everton - there is no need to dislike Rafael and take pot shots at him unless you have the mental age of a 6 year old.

Why?..... Because almost everything he has done so far has been positive and transformative from the sleepwalking nondescript way we were operating under Ancellotti and predecessors.

"IF" he started poorly, made bad decisions, showed no potential for improving the team etc then I would fully expect a unanimous "get him out" and the gamble would be a failure at moshiris feet because there was no way he was going to get a few weeks grace.

The reality is that if you look at club finance restrictions, injuries etc - he's done a bloomin good job.
 
I have not participated in the discussions about Benitez yet. Partly because it is too early to conclude, partly because things are going well at the moment, and partly because Benitez is without a doubt a manager with great knowledge, and mostly creates solid and hard-working teams.

This does not mean that I was not skeptical of the appointment, partly because of the history and partly because I wanted a more progressive manager.

It is quite strange to call the job Benitez did in Newcastle a failure. In that case, you have a rather one-sided view of what a manager's job is. One must also keep in mind the condition of Newcastle before Benitez took over. During his time in Newcastle, he professionalized all aspects of the club, and eventually achieved relatively good results.

We should give the manager a fair opportunity to prove himself, but we should also not worship him as a god. Give it some time.
 
I have not participated in the discussions about Benitez yet. Partly because it is too early to conclude, partly because things are going well at the moment, and partly because Benitez is without a doubt a manager with great knowledge, and mostly creates solid and hard-working teams.

This does not mean that I was not skeptical of the appointment, partly because of the history and partly because I wanted a more progressive manager.

It is quite strange to call the job Benitez did in Newcastle a failure. In that case, you have a rather one-sided view of what a manager's job is. One must also keep in mind the condition of Newcastle before Benitez took over. During his time in Newcastle, he professionalized all aspects of the club, and eventually achieved relatively good results.

We should give the manager a fair opportunity to prove himself, but we should also not worship him as a god. Give it some time.

Benitez at Newcastle - he kept them ticking along as a mid table club after the promotion season (following on from the relegation that should never have happened). This will have been seen as a success from Mike Ashley’s perspective, the reason their fans saw it as some sort of monumental achievement is because they made a god out of him due to his name and connections to the RS who they have a strange fetish for. No other manager who’s done the same job has been treated with the same adulation up there, I’m reluctant to take their fans’ views on his performance as they are clearly biased.
 

Same suspects still crying over Benitez I see lol

Best man for the job.
With money but especially without money available Moyes was the best option for us this summer. It was Moyes tactics and guile that had us pushing above our weight when we were skint . It was also Moyes that irked big spending Benitez to make derogatory comments and insult us because he couldnt beat Moyes Everton that day. Benitez best days are long behind him - he was a GREAT manager at Valencia and for few years at the rs. If we'd got Valencia benitez id have cheerleaded him too- not now hes a dinosaur - love to be wrong obviously cos hes here now but Moyes now is worth 20 Benetiz.'s.
 
With money but especially without money available Moyes was the best option for us this summer. It was Moyes tactics and guile that had us pushing above our weight when we were skint . It was also Moyes that irked big spending Benitez to make derogatory comments and insult us because he couldnt beat Moyes Everton that day. Benitez best days are long behind him - he was a GREAT manager at Valencia and for few years at the rs. If we'd got Valencia benitez id have cheerleaded him too- not now hes a dinosaur - love to be wrong obviously cos hes here now but Moyes now is worth 20 Benetiz.'s.
This is an intriguing post given you're using Moyes as the direct comparison. For the best part of a decade Moyes has been judged as having his best days behind him as he went from one disaster to another; his best days being a good manager without every regarded as great. He appears to have found his home at West Ham - all credit to him - but why can you offer Moyes such latitude and allowances for recent failures but are so secure in the idea that Benitez is a spent force?

I'm struggling with this.
 

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