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Ramiro Funes Mori

Will he get a work permit and play for us ?


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That's very true, but he DOES seem to meet the exceptional player criteria, which is what they will have to argue the case for, we do have a lot of positives on that side of things, but as you say it's literally how it goes and what happens and who even is on the panel.

Rodriguez i feel will be slightly different, as he has a EU passport also, but it's just about sorting papers out and sanctioning that i feel.

We'll see in the next few days i guess, if it's off then we need to move quickly.. and not for evans.

Exactly, there's no way we would have targeted him if they didn't feel he could pass the Exception Panel.
 
kenedy got a work permit, not sure how many of these apply to Fumes Mori
http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/8/2/9085083/kenedy-chelsea-work-permit
as follows:



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Basically, if the player collects 4 points, he gets the panel's recommendation. As far as Kenedy's concerned, he's pretty close to that. The first four criteria are the ones that before had been commonly refered to as the £10m rule. While Kenedy's fee is closer to £6m, he may still collect a few points here, especially if his wages are higher than normal (which seems like an easy way to collect a few points for rich clubs like us). The FA's official definitions for "Qualifying Transfers" and "Qualifying Wages" are:

Qualifying Transfers means all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous two (2) transfer windows in respect of players submitted on Premier League squad lists. The Qualifying Transfers value will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The Football League prior to each transfer window;

Qualifying Wages means the basic wages paid to the top 30 earners in each Premier League club at the closure of each transfer window prior to the date of the application. The value of Qualifying Wages will be provided by The FA directly to The Premier League and The Football League;

These figures are apparently not publicized but rather provided directly to the clubs. The question then becomes, just where does Kenedy's transfer fee and wages fall. If they are both above the 50th percentile (which seems like an easy target to hit with wages, at least), Kenedy would already have the required 4 points to get the panel's recommendation.

The last two criteria should gain the player at least one additional point as well. The Brazilian league should qualify as a "Top League" under FA rules thanks to Brazil's FIFA ranking — Top League is, in part, defined as "the two (2) Central and South American leagues which provide the most players to the top twenty (20) squads in the FIFA Aggregated World Rankings at the relevant point in time" — and Kenedy has played regularly for Fluminense over the last 12 months. In addition, Kenedy made one appearance in the second stage of the 2014 Copa Sudamericana in September. Should this competition at this stage qualify as a "Continental Competition," then Kenedy would gain another point. Assuming high enough wages, plus these two points, he would already be at the required 4 points for a work permit.

Should he not get to 4 points in the primary review stage, his application would proceed to a secondary review stage. If a player's application reaches the secondary review stage, the threshold rises to 5 points (total of 1st and 2nd reviews).

My calculations are that Mori should get 4 points minimum possibly 5.

I think they may also consider that Everton do not have a large number of non EU players either. Howard and Oviedo are the only two I can think of.

@davek
 
Chelsea are smart, they sign them and ship them off to Vitesse knowing they will get a work permit in Belgium for them.

Stoke actually did this for a young Yank striker too, Juan Agudelo. Couldn't fetch the work permit so they loaned him to Utrecht.

But since he was unable to break in to the national team, he failed the permit application again and ended up going back to MLS.
 


My calculations are that Mori should get 4 points minimum possibly 5.

I think they may also consider that Everton do not have a large number of non EU players either. Howard and Oviedo are the only two I can think of.

@davek

Kone and Pienaar as well mate.

But we may very well end up contributing 5 to the English Euro squad, too.
 

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